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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 4926530" data-attributes="member: 2525"><p>While I prefer 4e, I find that 3e did many things better, and I would be happy to play another 3e game with the right group.</p><p></p><p>First, I found character creation more interesting in 3e. I'd sit around with a huge stack of books, and piece together builds up to the mid-high levels. It would take days, weeks even, to get things right in my mind. It literally took months to work out my gnome illusionist shadowcaster in 3e, and I loved doing it, even though I knew the odds were against my ever playing the gnome. And while I can still do that somewhat in 4e (I just did with a Paladin I have no intention of ever actually playing), it definitely isn't a process of joy that can last weeks or months. I was done in a couple of reads of the relevant sources (though it was also fun).</p><p></p><p>Second, I found there was more opportunity for crazy magic things to happen in 3e, which was fun. A spellcaster would find some creative new way to use Rope Trick or Silent Image in combat. That still happens a bit in 4e with Wizard cantrips for example, but not as often.</p><p></p><p>Third, I found the books on average were more interesting to read in 3e. Now again, there are great books to read in 4e, like Open Grave. But on average, if I picked up a random 3e book and turned to a random page, odds are the text on that page would be more interesting to read (and read again) than the same activity with a random 4e book.</p><p></p><p>Those are just a few things off the top of my head. Of course, I could list other things I like more about 4e, but this isn't the post for that. I loved 3e. Some of the best game sessions I ever played were with 3e. I am happy 3e continues to live on through Pathfinder, and I'd love to play a game of 3e / Pathfinder again some day. </p><p></p><p>Liking 3e, and liking 4e, are not mutually exclusive things. And, you can like one more than you like the other, without disliking either of them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 4926530, member: 2525"] While I prefer 4e, I find that 3e did many things better, and I would be happy to play another 3e game with the right group. First, I found character creation more interesting in 3e. I'd sit around with a huge stack of books, and piece together builds up to the mid-high levels. It would take days, weeks even, to get things right in my mind. It literally took months to work out my gnome illusionist shadowcaster in 3e, and I loved doing it, even though I knew the odds were against my ever playing the gnome. And while I can still do that somewhat in 4e (I just did with a Paladin I have no intention of ever actually playing), it definitely isn't a process of joy that can last weeks or months. I was done in a couple of reads of the relevant sources (though it was also fun). Second, I found there was more opportunity for crazy magic things to happen in 3e, which was fun. A spellcaster would find some creative new way to use Rope Trick or Silent Image in combat. That still happens a bit in 4e with Wizard cantrips for example, but not as often. Third, I found the books on average were more interesting to read in 3e. Now again, there are great books to read in 4e, like Open Grave. But on average, if I picked up a random 3e book and turned to a random page, odds are the text on that page would be more interesting to read (and read again) than the same activity with a random 4e book. Those are just a few things off the top of my head. Of course, I could list other things I like more about 4e, but this isn't the post for that. I loved 3e. Some of the best game sessions I ever played were with 3e. I am happy 3e continues to live on through Pathfinder, and I'd love to play a game of 3e / Pathfinder again some day. Liking 3e, and liking 4e, are not mutually exclusive things. And, you can like one more than you like the other, without disliking either of them. [/QUOTE]
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