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<blockquote data-quote="Jer" data-source="post: 8552926" data-attributes="member: 19857"><p>I don't remember an M&M or a d20 Modern attempt but I do remember when they released their own diceless RPG system and then when they licensed it to Margaret Weis productions for a hot second to produce a very short-lived (but well received) Cortex system version.</p><p></p><p>The first one of those was shortly after Marvel came out of bankruptcy - in 2003 - and long before they were stable again or before they were bought by Disney. IIRC from stories out at the time it sold fairly well, but Marvel had no idea what the RPG market was like and considered anything that didn't sell like D&D to be a failure. And let's remember that this would have been D&D in <strong>2003</strong> - pretty much the middle of the initial 3rd edition rollout. So they axed it. They're a very different company at this point but that attitude might still be there and it will kill this new project if it is.</p><p></p><p>The second came out within a few years of the Disney purchase and I don't know the whole story behind it but I strongly suspect from the hints that were out there at the time that MWP paid too much for the license compared to what they could get through sales and when the license came up for renewal they just didn't have the money to spend to renew it. It's not so much Marvel not having the patience to support a system as the market being unwilling to pay for what Marvel wanted in licensing fees for their properties.</p><p></p><p>I have no idea what the new game will be like from a corporate perspective given how much Marvel has changed over the years. Marvel isn't a game company but they are a publisher, so depending on how seriously they're taking this and if they understand that D&D is a unique RPG that you'd have to invest a lot of time and money into competing with it could go either way. (The fact that they're offering "alternate covers" for their playtest rules coming out in April make me leery, but the fact that their playtest rules are only $10 makes me interested again - they do have an opportunity to get their game onto shelves that no other gaming company really has).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jer, post: 8552926, member: 19857"] I don't remember an M&M or a d20 Modern attempt but I do remember when they released their own diceless RPG system and then when they licensed it to Margaret Weis productions for a hot second to produce a very short-lived (but well received) Cortex system version. The first one of those was shortly after Marvel came out of bankruptcy - in 2003 - and long before they were stable again or before they were bought by Disney. IIRC from stories out at the time it sold fairly well, but Marvel had no idea what the RPG market was like and considered anything that didn't sell like D&D to be a failure. And let's remember that this would have been D&D in [B]2003[/B] - pretty much the middle of the initial 3rd edition rollout. So they axed it. They're a very different company at this point but that attitude might still be there and it will kill this new project if it is. The second came out within a few years of the Disney purchase and I don't know the whole story behind it but I strongly suspect from the hints that were out there at the time that MWP paid too much for the license compared to what they could get through sales and when the license came up for renewal they just didn't have the money to spend to renew it. It's not so much Marvel not having the patience to support a system as the market being unwilling to pay for what Marvel wanted in licensing fees for their properties. I have no idea what the new game will be like from a corporate perspective given how much Marvel has changed over the years. Marvel isn't a game company but they are a publisher, so depending on how seriously they're taking this and if they understand that D&D is a unique RPG that you'd have to invest a lot of time and money into competing with it could go either way. (The fact that they're offering "alternate covers" for their playtest rules coming out in April make me leery, but the fact that their playtest rules are only $10 makes me interested again - they do have an opportunity to get their game onto shelves that no other gaming company really has). [/QUOTE]
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