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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8259204" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>Yeah I gotta agree with you, [USER=6704184]@doctorbadwolf[/USER] is demonstrably wrong here, if you look at discussion on it pre-SA, people mostly came down on the side of you being able to use it before (you could see this in the voting in reddit threads on it, for example), with some thinking otherwise but often having views that also didn't match the SA (like that they thought the RAW as after, but RAI was either, for example, which was a fairly common take). The RAI/RAW was unclear and suggesting otherwise is pretty close to saying "everyone but me was dumb", however unintentionally, given the demonstrably large amount of discussion about it.</p></blockquote><p></p>