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<blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 8358919" data-attributes="member: 16814"><p>Awarding Inspiration is related to BIFTs (although you can award it according to the guidance for just about anything you want as GM), but BIFTs do not control nor do they require receiving Inspiration. I can, for instance, lean heavily on a BIFT as a player and not get Inspiration. The only mechanical impact is whether or not I have Inspiration, which BIFTs are only weakly connected to.</p><p></p><p>But, this wasn't your argument. Your argument was that you could ignore all of those things without impacts as well -- but you cannot. I, as a player, can ignore my BIFTs and nothing happens. I cannot ignore the other things on your list -- they bite back.</p><p></p><p>No, they really aren't. They're told that they can earn it for playing to their BIFTs, but the reality is that it's entirely up to the GM. A new player might very well take actions to earn Inspiration, and not receive it, and play can be fair and balanced and good -- but this expectation is unfulfilled just because the GM has a difference of opinion. There is no way for a player to actually claim Inspiration. There is not clear path to this. You're substituting how you play for the baseline and it's not this.</p><p></p><p>I do as well. I like 5e. I also think it's good to be honest rather that rose-colored-glasses-wearing about how it actually works and what you should expect from it. And BIFTs are a bad system, tacked on, that requires extra work from the GM to enable it to any semblance of usefulness, at which point it's still pretty weak.</p><p></p><p>I agree -- it's has a kludge of a system that doesn't work very well for it's claimed goals in BIFTs. I'm not denying it exists, I'm saying it does, and it's not very good. </p><p></p><p>You just said there was none. Please pick a position.</p><p></p><p>That's an odd place to leap to.</p><p></p><p><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="👍" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f44d.png" title="Thumbs up :thumbsup:" data-shortname=":thumbsup:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" /> </p><p></p><p>To me, that's not a good reason. "I support it because it's there," doesn't inspire others very much.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ovinomancer, post: 8358919, member: 16814"] Awarding Inspiration is related to BIFTs (although you can award it according to the guidance for just about anything you want as GM), but BIFTs do not control nor do they require receiving Inspiration. I can, for instance, lean heavily on a BIFT as a player and not get Inspiration. The only mechanical impact is whether or not I have Inspiration, which BIFTs are only weakly connected to. But, this wasn't your argument. Your argument was that you could ignore all of those things without impacts as well -- but you cannot. I, as a player, can ignore my BIFTs and nothing happens. I cannot ignore the other things on your list -- they bite back. No, they really aren't. They're told that they can earn it for playing to their BIFTs, but the reality is that it's entirely up to the GM. A new player might very well take actions to earn Inspiration, and not receive it, and play can be fair and balanced and good -- but this expectation is unfulfilled just because the GM has a difference of opinion. There is no way for a player to actually claim Inspiration. There is not clear path to this. You're substituting how you play for the baseline and it's not this. I do as well. I like 5e. I also think it's good to be honest rather that rose-colored-glasses-wearing about how it actually works and what you should expect from it. And BIFTs are a bad system, tacked on, that requires extra work from the GM to enable it to any semblance of usefulness, at which point it's still pretty weak. I agree -- it's has a kludge of a system that doesn't work very well for it's claimed goals in BIFTs. I'm not denying it exists, I'm saying it does, and it's not very good. You just said there was none. Please pick a position. That's an odd place to leap to. 👍 To me, that's not a good reason. "I support it because it's there," doesn't inspire others very much. [/QUOTE]
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