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<blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 8361244" data-attributes="member: 16814">Yes, D&amp;D is a roleplaying game.&nbsp; It's also a genre.&nbsp; People don't say, &quot;I wanna play heroic fantasy,&quot; they say, &quot;I wanna play D&amp;D.&quot;&nbsp; What that means isn't that they're looking for the heroic fantasy tropes, but rather the D&amp;D tropes.&nbsp; Heroic fantasy isn't the only genre flavoring that D&amp;D is capable.The D&amp;D genre is a separate thing from heroic fantasy.I don't follow you here at all.&nbsp; I don't see how backgrounds, BIFTs, and setting your character's height and weight establish the D&amp;D genre, especially since it existed long before that chapter, and exist independently of your character having a background at all, much less BIFTs.&nbsp; The D&amp;D genre is largely defined by and baked into the way combat is central, the focus on group-identity/play, and zero-to-hero.&nbsp; None of that relies on Chapter 4 stuff -- it exists even if you excise Chapter 4.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ovinomancer, post: 8361244, member: 16814"] Yes, D&D is a roleplaying game. It's also a genre. People don't say, "I wanna play heroic fantasy," they say, "I wanna play D&D." What that means isn't that they're looking for the heroic fantasy tropes, but rather the D&D tropes. Heroic fantasy isn't the only genre flavoring that D&D is capable. The D&D genre is a separate thing from heroic fantasy. I don't follow you here at all. I don't see how backgrounds, BIFTs, and setting your character's height and weight establish the D&D genre, especially since it existed long before that chapter, and exist independently of your character having a background at all, much less BIFTs. The D&D genre is largely defined by and baked into the way combat is central, the focus on group-identity/play, and zero-to-hero. None of that relies on Chapter 4 stuff -- it exists even if you excise Chapter 4. [/QUOTE]

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