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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 8674140" data-attributes="member: 42582"><p>Burning Wheel is very similar to RQ as you describe it here.</p><p></p><p>Even a very powerful warrior - say, Power B8 and weapon skill of B6 or B7 - won't have a chance against a dragon, which - per the Monster Burner - can easily do a fatal wound (Severe, Traumatic or Morta) with its talons or jaws (IMS B6, B12, B16 and B7, B13, G1 (=B17) respectively, where the strongest human might have a MW tolerance of B14 (8s in both Power and Forte) which would mean Severe B12 and Traumatic B13). The talons have Versus Armour of 2 and the jaws 3, which means even wearing full plate you need to roll 3 or 4 successes on your 6 dice to avoid that damage. And of course if it breathes it fries you, because all the incoming damage is in the Grey shade (so B17+) which is a Mortal Wound for any warrior who is not somehow enchanted or Heroic in their stats.</p><p></p><p>The dragon's own resistance to damage is immense (as befits its size): B10 is needed for a Superficial and G4 (= B20) for a Light Wound - and the IMS for the PoB8 warrior with a sword will be B6, B11, B16 (but with VA 2, so the dragon needs to roll 3 successes on its 4 armour dice to avoid the wound). Because the worst the warrior can do to it is a Superficial, it can afford to attack without worrying about parrying on every action.</p><p></p><p>For the warrior to be able to beat this dragon, they need something remarkable to occur that steps up their abilities - a Dragon-Slaying Sword that lets them do Grey rather than Black-shade damage (G6, G11, G16 will absolutely make the dragon sit up and take notice!), something that steps up the warrior's own resistance to wounds, etc.</p><p></p><p>The last time I did a dragon fight was in 4e D&D, and of course it was completely different from how it would be in BW. The PCs were in their flying tower, and there was a Frost Giant chieftain riding the dragon, and in the end the PC fighter was the one to get the kill by leaping off the tower onto the back of the dragon and pinning its wings so that it crashed. The whole thing was maximum gonzo, and there was no sense at any point that the epic tier fighter was someone might worry about getting tired hiking through the woods!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 8674140, member: 42582"] Burning Wheel is very similar to RQ as you describe it here. Even a very powerful warrior - say, Power B8 and weapon skill of B6 or B7 - won't have a chance against a dragon, which - per the Monster Burner - can easily do a fatal wound (Severe, Traumatic or Morta) with its talons or jaws (IMS B6, B12, B16 and B7, B13, G1 (=B17) respectively, where the strongest human might have a MW tolerance of B14 (8s in both Power and Forte) which would mean Severe B12 and Traumatic B13). The talons have Versus Armour of 2 and the jaws 3, which means even wearing full plate you need to roll 3 or 4 successes on your 6 dice to avoid that damage. And of course if it breathes it fries you, because all the incoming damage is in the Grey shade (so B17+) which is a Mortal Wound for any warrior who is not somehow enchanted or Heroic in their stats. The dragon's own resistance to damage is immense (as befits its size): B10 is needed for a Superficial and G4 (= B20) for a Light Wound - and the IMS for the PoB8 warrior with a sword will be B6, B11, B16 (but with VA 2, so the dragon needs to roll 3 successes on its 4 armour dice to avoid the wound). Because the worst the warrior can do to it is a Superficial, it can afford to attack without worrying about parrying on every action. For the warrior to be able to beat this dragon, they need something remarkable to occur that steps up their abilities - a Dragon-Slaying Sword that lets them do Grey rather than Black-shade damage (G6, G11, G16 will absolutely make the dragon sit up and take notice!), something that steps up the warrior's own resistance to wounds, etc. The last time I did a dragon fight was in 4e D&D, and of course it was completely different from how it would be in BW. The PCs were in their flying tower, and there was a Frost Giant chieftain riding the dragon, and in the end the PC fighter was the one to get the kill by leaping off the tower onto the back of the dragon and pinning its wings so that it crashed. The whole thing was maximum gonzo, and there was no sense at any point that the epic tier fighter was someone might worry about getting tired hiking through the woods! [/QUOTE]
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