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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Manbearcat" data-source="post: 8674678" data-attributes="member: 6696971">So I was recalling the Collosal-sized Ancient Red Wyrm vs lone warrior on the ramparts that was the staple photo for D&D Beyond during the playtest.[ATTACH=full]251990[/ATTACH]And so I figured I’d do a little more looking into dimensions. My brain said DC9 aircraft from memory. However, it’s actually larger. More like a Boeing 727-100 series.  The weight isn't even close however (the weight of the Ancient Dragon - at bottom - is in line with a max takeoff weight for a 727-100 series).Wingspan: 150 ft (46m)Length (head to tail): 120 ft (37m)Height (ground to top of shoulder): 40 ft (12 m)Weight: 1.28 million lbs (640 tons).In 5e, that Ancient Red Wyrm appears to be the upper limit for dragons.  HOWEVER, beyond the picture above, here is the picture for the scale of the FR Ancient Wyrm Klauth vs the stock 5e MM Scale.  I don't even know what the hell that scaling would be to be honest.  That is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more massive than the 5e Gargantuan Ancient Dragon.  But that picture above looks a lot closer to Klauth's scaled dimensions below.[ATTACH=full]251991[/ATTACH]So the smallest Ancient Reds (Dragons, not Wyrms, and Gargantuan, not Colossal) in 5e appear to be something like:Wingspan: 100 ft (31 m)Length (head to the tail): 88 ft (27 m)Height (ground to top of shoulder): 18 ft (6 m)Weight: 165000 lbs (83 tons).[HR][/HR]TLDR - Ancient Reds are big.  Real big.  And some just keep embiggenating beyond that.EDIT - Are some of you guys thinking that the entire Ancient Red is supposed to fit in the battlegrid's (completely abstracted) squares rather than just the scapula to the sacrum (if even that!)?</blockquote>

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