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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 8675633" data-attributes="member: 6801845">You're the one with the giant dragon shaped strawman.&nbsp;&nbsp; <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="🤷‍♂️" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f937-2642.png" title="Man shrugging&nbsp; &nbsp; :man_shrugging:" data-shortname=":man_shrugging:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" /> Dragons are not kaiju in D&amp;D, the closest we have is the tarrasque. D&amp;D is not The Hobbit, Smaug was a unique creature and last of it's kind. He was also killed by a single (magical?) arrow, all it took was for Bard to know where to hit. You haven't &quot;proven&quot; anything and obviously it's arguable because I'm arguing it's not the whole picture. There's no reason to believe a D&amp;D dragon would not be easily killed with modern military equipment. In fact, we have stats for a rifle in the DMG, a single bullet from a rifle causes 2d8 damage. Given a platoon of soldiers with fully automatic weapons, and it would not take that long to take out the dragon based on the rules of the game which informs us what dragons are in D&amp;D.&nbsp; But it also doesn't matter because it has nothing to do with the OP's question.&nbsp; I fully accept that D&amp;D is simulating action movie logic.&nbsp; That magic is inherent to the world and it's denizens.&nbsp; That doesn't mean that there aren't many simulationist aspects to the game.&nbsp; There are also narrative aspects to the game, game rule aspects, on and on.&nbsp; So, no I don't see why these impossible to kill dragons keep showing up, or how they're even relevant.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 8675633, member: 6801845"] You're the one with the giant dragon shaped strawman. 🤷‍♂️ Dragons are not kaiju in D&D, the closest we have is the tarrasque. D&D is not The Hobbit, Smaug was a unique creature and last of it's kind. He was also killed by a single (magical?) arrow, all it took was for Bard to know where to hit. You haven't "proven" anything and obviously it's arguable because I'm arguing it's not the whole picture. There's no reason to believe a D&D dragon would not be easily killed with modern military equipment. In fact, we have stats for a rifle in the DMG, a single bullet from a rifle causes 2d8 damage. Given a platoon of soldiers with fully automatic weapons, and it would not take that long to take out the dragon [I]based on the rules of the game which informs us what dragons are in D&D.[/I] But it also doesn't matter because it has nothing to do with the OP's question. I fully accept that D&D is simulating action movie logic. That magic is inherent to the world and it's denizens. That doesn't mean that there aren't many simulationist aspects to the game. There are also narrative aspects to the game, game rule aspects, on and on. So, no I don't see why these impossible to kill dragons keep showing up, or how they're even relevant. [/QUOTE]

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