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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 8678426" data-attributes="member: 22779">Y'know, funnily enough, I don't usually watch live plays, but, I've gotten into Viva La Dirt League's NPC D&amp;D.&nbsp; Dunno why.&nbsp; it's just kinda amused me.&nbsp; But, in the latest episode, it highlights very nicely exactly what I'm talking about with skills in D&amp;D.&nbsp; I made a 1 minute clip here, from episode 96, so, where the one player is trying to hide his true identity from a group of NPC's.[URL unfurl=&quot;true&quot;]https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxjXdIkgLYZumAkqh8mGUtAqxi4qor8Mvj[/URL]Now, I know, I know, it's being played for laughs.&nbsp; Fair enough.&nbsp; Although, to be fair, I've certainly seen more than my share of this kind of moment at D&amp;D tables over the years.&nbsp; But, the point right at the end there of, &quot;How can he be good at deception&quot; pretty much nails it on the head for me.&nbsp; Even though the DM has even taken into account the really, really bad attempt at deception, the character's bonuses are so high that he succeeds anyway and makes the whole scene a farce.&nbsp; Funny, at least to me.&nbsp; But, as far as a simulation of trying to deceive goes, well, it's pretty far removed.I suppose you could argue that the DM shouldn't have asked for a roll, but, then again, that's pretty standard to ask for one at this point.&nbsp; Not unreasonable.&nbsp; But, really, there's a perfect example of how the simulation doesn't really work very well (like at all) because it doesn't actually match the narrative.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 8678426, member: 22779"] Y'know, funnily enough, I don't usually watch live plays, but, I've gotten into Viva La Dirt League's NPC D&D. Dunno why. it's just kinda amused me. But, in the latest episode, it highlights very nicely exactly what I'm talking about with skills in D&D. I made a 1 minute clip here, from episode 96, so, where the one player is trying to hide his true identity from a group of NPC's. [URL unfurl="true"]https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxjXdIkgLYZumAkqh8mGUtAqxi4qor8Mvj[/URL] Now, I know, I know, it's being played for laughs. Fair enough. Although, to be fair, I've certainly seen more than my share of this kind of moment at D&D tables over the years. But, the point right at the end there of, "How can he be good at deception" pretty much nails it on the head for me. Even though the DM has even taken into account the really, really bad attempt at deception, the character's bonuses are so high that he succeeds anyway and makes the whole scene a farce. Funny, at least to me. But, as far as a simulation of trying to deceive goes, well, it's pretty far removed. I suppose you could argue that the DM shouldn't have asked for a roll, but, then again, that's pretty standard to ask for one at this point. Not unreasonable. But, really, there's a perfect example of how the simulation doesn't really work very well (like at all) because it doesn't actually match the narrative. [/QUOTE]

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