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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 8282853" data-attributes="member: 82106">Well, yeah, you are right to point out that EVEN GARY fell to the urge to put gotcha! elements into his games. I think you can sort of look at it in his case as trying to deal with the inevitable consequences of his play style. It certainly wasn't ignorance. It is still kind of crappy, though. And I think that is the real reason why we all eventually went on to more rewarding processes and games that enable them. I mean, I didn't even run a D&amp;D game between about 1993 and 2008, basically. Played in a few now and again, but that was about it. When I started running 4e it was, to some degree, a &quot;hey, nostalgia, lets have some fun with this&quot; and I even recall discussing with some of the players before we started if we could even make D&amp;D style play work with Healing Surges in the game, lol. [USER=2093]@Gilladian[/USER] was like &quot;just play it by the rules and see what happens&quot;. So after a couple sessions then I was like &quot;hey, this is a stealth Story Now game!&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 8282853, member: 82106"] Well, yeah, you are right to point out that EVEN GARY fell to the urge to put gotcha! elements into his games. I think you can sort of look at it in his case as trying to deal with the inevitable consequences of his play style. It certainly wasn't ignorance. It is still kind of crappy, though. And I think that is the real reason why we all eventually went on to more rewarding processes and games that enable them. I mean, I didn't even run a D&D game between about 1993 and 2008, basically. Played in a few now and again, but that was about it. When I started running 4e it was, to some degree, a "hey, nostalgia, lets have some fun with this" and I even recall discussing with some of the players before we started if we could even make D&D style play work with Healing Surges in the game, lol. [USER=2093]@Gilladian[/USER] was like "just play it by the rules and see what happens". So after a couple sessions then I was like "hey, this is a stealth Story Now game!" [/QUOTE]

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