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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 8288862" data-attributes="member: 82106">Why do you say 80's and 90's? TODAY seems to be an era of rigid adherence to a pretty much formulaic D&amp;D.&nbsp; I mean, sure, you and I and people in this forum talk about a variety of games and playing D&amp;D different ways, etc. I guarantee you there are 99 virtually indistinguishable games of 5e going on for every one game of something I would run or you would run. Again though, I think the issue is that it is very hard to merge different RPG process and rules. Finally, people are TERRIBLE at analysis (believe me, I work in an industry where half the people have the title 'analyst' and they really know nothing about what they're doing). Which means, nobody much really understands what we're talking about. They are fumbling around. Field sports are vastly simpler and nobody has a problem noticing that each side has a different idea of what scoring is. They know to work that out. We cannot even agree on what the goal of a given RPG is. Of course its hard for people to choose, and then we play long campaigns which require sticking to that choice. I'm still not seeing a huge amount of overlap here between sports and RPGs. The overlap I see is TRIBALISM. You have the people who decided baseball is the cat's ass, and the people who decided it is a pansy 'not a sport' and only football is a real sport. Just like you have a hard core of people who think Gygax classic D&amp;D is THE ONLY WAY. I don't think most of them really HAVE analyzed that or truly experienced any other form of play, except as &quot;this is impure, I will help you fix it.&quot; Meanwhile you have the other 'clans' calling those guys all grognards... There's nothing hard to understand about any of that! lol.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 8288862, member: 82106"] Why do you say 80's and 90's? TODAY seems to be an era of rigid adherence to a pretty much formulaic D&D. I mean, sure, you and I and people in this forum talk about a variety of games and playing D&D different ways, etc. I guarantee you there are 99 virtually indistinguishable games of 5e going on for every one game of something I would run or you would run. Again though, I think the issue is that it is very hard to merge different RPG process and rules. Finally, people are TERRIBLE at analysis (believe me, I work in an industry where half the people have the title 'analyst' and they really know nothing about what they're doing). Which means, nobody much really understands what we're talking about. They are fumbling around. Field sports are vastly simpler and nobody has a problem noticing that each side has a different idea of what scoring is. They know to work that out. We cannot even agree on what the goal of a given RPG is. Of course its hard for people to choose, and then we play long campaigns which require sticking to that choice. I'm still not seeing a huge amount of overlap here between sports and RPGs. The overlap I see is TRIBALISM. You have the people who decided baseball is the cat's ass, and the people who decided it is a pansy 'not a sport' and only football is a real sport. Just like you have a hard core of people who think Gygax classic D&D is THE ONLY WAY. I don't think most of them really HAVE analyzed that or truly experienced any other form of play, except as "this is impure, I will help you fix it." Meanwhile you have the other 'clans' calling those guys all grognards... There's nothing hard to understand about any of that! lol. [/QUOTE]

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