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<blockquote data-quote="Manbearcat" data-source="post: 8290089" data-attributes="member: 6696971">Let me TLDR my thoughts on this in as pithy and clear a way as possible:The idea that ball sports and combat sports more tightly encode the governing aspects of playing/refereeing is fundamentally not true.&nbsp; All 4 below are truisms:1)&nbsp; it is absolutely more difficult to abide by most ball and combat rulesets than it is D&amp;D.2)&nbsp; It is absolutely more difficult to referee most ball and combat rulesets than it is D&amp;D.3)&nbsp; It is absolutely more difficult to judge most MMA fights than it is to referee or play D&amp;D.4)&nbsp; It is absolutely more difficult to maintain a social contract in pick-up sports than it is in D&amp;D (the amount of strife and dysfunction a the social level...even amongst friends (!) is extraordinary in pick-up sports...and &quot;testosterone dump&quot; isn't even close to the exclusive causal answer to that...its how rules fail to govern collisions and corner cases and misperceptions).Consequently, I'll take refereeing a D&amp;D game all day long to trying to referee an NFL Football game or a Sunday afternoon pickup basketball game or to judge a 5 round MMA Fight.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Manbearcat, post: 8290089, member: 6696971"] Let me TLDR my thoughts on this in as pithy and clear a way as possible: The idea that ball sports and combat sports more tightly encode the governing aspects of playing/refereeing is fundamentally not true. All 4 below are truisms: 1) it is absolutely more difficult to abide by most ball and combat rulesets than it is D&D. 2) It is absolutely more difficult to referee most ball and combat rulesets than it is D&D. 3) It is absolutely more difficult to judge most MMA fights than it is to referee or play D&D. 4) It is absolutely more difficult to maintain a social contract in pick-up sports than it is in D&D (the amount of strife and dysfunction a the social level...even amongst friends (!) is extraordinary in pick-up sports...and "testosterone dump" isn't even close to the exclusive causal answer to that...its how rules fail to govern collisions and corner cases and misperceptions). Consequently, I'll take refereeing a D&D game all day long to trying to referee an NFL Football game or a Sunday afternoon pickup basketball game or to judge a 5 round MMA Fight. [/QUOTE]

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