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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 8290828" data-attributes="member: 6790260">So, I basically...don't know what those things are. But I feel I've been pretty consistent in asking for something of the order &quot;American football and croquet&quot; or &quot;hockey and basketball,&quot; the latter of which I explicitly called out at least once. I don't really feel that Australian Rules football and Irish/Gaelic football are dramatically different sports in the same way that waltz and swing are dramatically different musical styles. This, of course, gets into the thorny, Sorites-paradox-like concept of &quot;what counts as a difference of degree vs a difference of kind,&quot; which is doubly problematic with D&amp;D stuff where there's already presumptive similarity (e.g., if I don't think international rules football is an example of sufficient difference, does that mean I'm being inconsistent by saying that I do think B/X and 4e would be a sufficient difference? I don't know.)That said, Wikipedia has a list of &quot;hybrid sports.&quot; I've literally never heard of any of them before, though some of that may be due to being a Unitedstatesian and thus rather outside the culture of association football (which is the sport that everyone seems to try to combine with something else). Certainly they aren't the kind of thing people just do casually on a weekend (from what I can tell), which remains a difference, but my point is weakened by their existence.Edit: Posted the above before seeing your post, Cadence, but yes that is the article I mentioned.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 8290828, member: 6790260"] So, I basically...don't know what those things are. But I feel I've been pretty consistent in asking for something [I]of the order[/I] "American football and croquet" or "hockey and basketball," the latter of which I explicitly called out at least once. I don't really feel that Australian Rules football and Irish/Gaelic football are dramatically different sports in the same way that waltz and swing are dramatically different musical styles. This, of course, gets into the thorny, Sorites-paradox-like concept of "what counts as a difference of degree vs a difference of kind," which is doubly problematic with D&D stuff where there's already presumptive similarity (e.g., if I don't think international rules football is an example of sufficient difference, does that mean I'm being inconsistent by saying that I [I]do[/I] think B/X and 4e [I]would[/I] be a sufficient difference? I don't know.) That said, Wikipedia has a list of "hybrid sports." I've literally never heard of any of them before, though some of that may be due to being a Unitedstatesian and thus rather outside the culture of association football (which is the sport that [I]everyone[/I] seems to try to combine with something else). Certainly they [I]aren't[/I] the kind of thing people just do casually on a weekend (from what I can tell), which remains a difference, but my point is weakened by their existence. Edit: Posted the above before seeing your post, Cadence, but yes that is the article I mentioned. [/QUOTE]

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