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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Manbearcat" data-source="post: 8292881" data-attributes="member: 6696971">I knew there was a reason why I like you!  You picked up precisely on where I was going with handicapping!Let me ask you a few things:1)  You have a moveset consisting of a possible 10 moves (let us just say 10 to keep things manageable) in a given situation where the configuration of the shared imagined space is thus (vs this or that or any other arrangement of elements of the fictional positioning...if it was this or that configuration, there would not only be a different number of permissible moves but there would also be, at least in part, variance within the subset of moves).a)  If you then include a thematic coefficient to each of those 10 moves (ranging from thematically degenerate to thematically coherent to thematically potent sufficient to trigger mechanical effect), would that make the cognitive workspace of managing that moveset and navigating that singular decision-point less or more demanding/intensive (cognitively)?b)  Then, would it be correct or incorrect or not applicable to make the claim "as it pertains to skill, managing the cognitive workspace of that decision-point has increased?"2)  Let us focus on a singular move in Dungeon World:When you stand in defense of a person, item, or location under attack, roll+Con.  On a 10+, hold 3. On a 7–9, hold 1. As long as you stand in defense, when you or the thing you defend is attacked you may spend hold, 1 for 1, to choose an option:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Redirect an attack from the thing you defend to yourself</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Halve the attack’s effect or damage</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Open up the attacker to an ally giving that ally +1 forward against the attacker</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Deal damage to the attacker equal to your level</li> </ul>Now, again, I'm not getting into the 2nd and 3rd order impacts of making build decisions that intersect with enabling/optimizing this move nor am I even talking about managing the shared imagined space (SIS) such that this Defend move is even permissible in a given configuration of the SIS.  Nor am I talking about the downstream effects of synergy with this move (what it opens up for other players or takes away from other players).I'm merely talking about the move.If we entirely changed Defend to the following iteration:When you stand in defense of a person, item, or location under attack, roll+Con.  On a 10+ you redirect the attack from the thing you defend to yourself.  On a 7-9, you redirect the attack from the thing you defend to yourself but there is a cost or complication.Does this new iteration of Defend increase/decrease/unchanged ("move-in/move-out"...across a sufficiently large population of Defend moves) the potential skillfulness in its deployment by the player who triggers the move?</blockquote>

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