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<blockquote data-quote="mmadsen" data-source="post: 4922952" data-attributes="member: 1645">The 4E marketing did not dissuade me from buying the 4E books, but the 4E rules did dissuade me from playing the 4E game.I agree that it's bad marketing to tell D&amp;D players who have invested mightily in their campaign to just start fresh, and it's both bad marketing and bad design to break not just the mechanics of backward-compatability but the flavor as well.&nbsp; Continuity is important in a game where you create an elaborate shared history.That may be bad marketing, but I personally love a good design discussion, and I'm baffled by people who take offense.&nbsp; Of course, we see the same things here on the boards all the time, so it shouldn't' have surprised WotC at all.This harks back to the earlier point about backward-compatability.&nbsp; Really though, what galls people is the inclusion of new races and classes, when old standbys get left out.&nbsp; That feels like a betrayal.None of that hit me personally.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="mmadsen, post: 4922952, member: 1645"] The 4E marketing did not dissuade me from buying the 4E books, but the 4E rules did dissuade me from playing the 4E game. I agree that it's bad marketing to tell D&D players who have invested mightily in their campaign to just start fresh, and it's both bad marketing and bad design to break not just the mechanics of backward-compatability but the flavor as well. Continuity is important in a game where you create an elaborate shared history. That may be bad marketing, but I personally love a good design discussion, and I'm baffled by people who take offense. Of course, we see the same things here on the boards all the time, so it shouldn't' have surprised WotC at all. This harks back to the earlier point about backward-compatability. Really though, what galls people is the [i]inclusion[/i] of new races and classes, when old standbys get left out. That feels like a betrayal. None of that hit me personally. [/QUOTE]

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