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<blockquote data-quote="catastrophic" data-source="post: 4923527" data-attributes="member: 81381"><p><strong><span style="color: red">Hey, folks, your friendly admin here. If you're curious on how not to post, please use this series of posts as an example. It's the sort of thing that gets people threadbanned or suspended: deliberate insulting language that is designed to stir up arguments instead of discussing them. Please avoid this sort of thing when you're posting yourself. Thanks. ~ PCat</span></strong></p><p></p><p>Because people are just making up things to rake WOTC over the coals with and their criticisms are not really valid.</p><p> </p><p>I find it particularly contrived to decide there's some big faux pass involved in trying to improve the game, or <em>daring</em> to suggest that 4e is an improvement over 3e. Rubbish. New versions of products advertise their improvements over older versions all the time. This includes new versions of apple products, software, games, I mean for crying out loud some computer game development companies advertise their <em>patches</em> if they're big enough.</p><p> </p><p>Not only is it absurd to demand the makers of a new product avoid mentioning it's advantages over a new one, not only is it ridiculous to claim that this is some kind of big advertising no-no, but I think we all know such a change in their promotion of 4e would have had limited effect on the people who decided to hate 4e.</p><p> </p><p>This is particularly true of those people who hate it to the point where they can't stand to have 4e compared favourably to 3e.</p><p> </p><p>If they had said things like 'not better just different' then the 4e haters would have said things like 'if it isn't better why make 4e at all' and this whole ridiculous process would begin anew.</p><p> </p><p>There are certainly a lot of things that WOTC could have done better during the launch of 4e and in the time since then, but this ridiculous idea about 'tearing 3e down' hs got nothing to do with promotion or advertising, and everything to do with diehard 3e fans venting their spleens and other people giving the argument far more credit or support than it deserves.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="catastrophic, post: 4923527, member: 81381"] [b][color=red]Hey, folks, your friendly admin here. If you're curious on how not to post, please use this series of posts as an example. It's the sort of thing that gets people threadbanned or suspended: deliberate insulting language that is designed to stir up arguments instead of discussing them. Please avoid this sort of thing when you're posting yourself. Thanks. ~ PCat[/color][/b][color=red][/color] Because people are just making up things to rake WOTC over the coals with and their criticisms are not really valid. I find it particularly contrived to decide there's some big faux pass involved in trying to improve the game, or [I]daring[/I] to suggest that 4e is an improvement over 3e. Rubbish. New versions of products advertise their improvements over older versions all the time. This includes new versions of apple products, software, games, I mean for crying out loud some computer game development companies advertise their [I]patches[/I] if they're big enough. Not only is it absurd to demand the makers of a new product avoid mentioning it's advantages over a new one, not only is it ridiculous to claim that this is some kind of big advertising no-no, but I think we all know such a change in their promotion of 4e would have had limited effect on the people who decided to hate 4e. This is particularly true of those people who hate it to the point where they can't stand to have 4e compared favourably to 3e. If they had said things like 'not better just different' then the 4e haters would have said things like 'if it isn't better why make 4e at all' and this whole ridiculous process would begin anew. There are certainly a lot of things that WOTC could have done better during the launch of 4e and in the time since then, but this ridiculous idea about 'tearing 3e down' hs got nothing to do with promotion or advertising, and everything to do with diehard 3e fans venting their spleens and other people giving the argument far more credit or support than it deserves. [/QUOTE]
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