Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
On the marketing of 4E
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 4923546" data-attributes="member: 19675"><p>No, its not rubbish.</p><p></p><p>That 4Ed is "an improvement over 3.X" is a matter of <em>opinion,</em> and opinions vary <em>greatly</em> on that matter. Its entirely subjective.</p><p></p><p>By asserting it as objective fact in an advertising campaign, by taking that as your marketing strategy's starting point, you're adopting an adversarial stance right out of the gate. You're helping create and temper your own opposition. You've given them a rhetorical foothold.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Look at the character of those improvements in those ads. In neither case are they criticizing their previous products on <em>subjective</em> grounds.</p><p></p><p>They tout that a computer runs faster, has a more powerful graphics processing card, are more stable, more secure, less prone to damage by viruses, more compact, bigger screen or lower price than their previous models - all things that are <em>objectively</em> verifiable.</p><p></p><p>The patches for games address known issues- software conflicts, freezes, backdoors, bugs, etc.- or <em>again</em> add or improve the program's functionality in objective ways with increases in world size, more realistic & challenging AIs, smoother graphics and so forth...and are also rarely part of an actual advertising campaign.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 4923546, member: 19675"] No, its not rubbish. That 4Ed is "an improvement over 3.X" is a matter of [I]opinion,[/I] and opinions vary [I]greatly[/I] on that matter. Its entirely subjective. By asserting it as objective fact in an advertising campaign, by taking that as your marketing strategy's starting point, you're adopting an adversarial stance right out of the gate. You're helping create and temper your own opposition. You've given them a rhetorical foothold. Look at the character of those improvements in those ads. In neither case are they criticizing their previous products on [I]subjective[/I] grounds. They tout that a computer runs faster, has a more powerful graphics processing card, are more stable, more secure, less prone to damage by viruses, more compact, bigger screen or lower price than their previous models - all things that are [I]objectively[/I] verifiable. The patches for games address known issues- software conflicts, freezes, backdoors, bugs, etc.- or [I]again[/I] add or improve the program's functionality in objective ways with increases in world size, more realistic & challenging AIs, smoother graphics and so forth...and are also rarely part of an actual advertising campaign. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
On the marketing of 4E
Top