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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mallus" data-source="post: 4923702" data-attributes="member: 3887">I think it's funny, though Bytopia is obviously the Elemental Plane of Rush Fans. To each is own, but the profusion of stuff in the Great Wheel --at the intersection the Para-elemental Planes of Salt, Smoke, and Tasty Peppers lies the Para-Elemental Demi-Plane of Paprika-- always struck me as a cosmology designed by a group of undergraduate engineering students sharing their first joint, which is to say, as lacking a certain mythic power and lyricism.   The 4e Cosmology is okay as a starting point. My friend and I improved it quite a bit for our homebrew (ah, modesty...).As for the marketing of 4e... I thought it was fine. It created an awareness of and interest in the product in me. I didn't find it insulting in the slightest. What I did find was a surprising amount of thin-skinned response on the Internet (of all places), claiming the new design/marketing team wasn't showing the proper amount of deference for all that came before. Where they supposed to suggest the new product was wholly unnecessary? That no improvements were made? That so few changes were made that it's practically the same product users already owned --hmmm, it worked for Pathfinder, so maybe... Anyhow, color me confused.</blockquote>