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<blockquote data-quote="The Little Raven" data-source="post: 4925062" data-attributes="member: 10095"><p>Let's actually look at the content of Dragon, directly.</p><p></p><p>Dragon 379 (September)</p><p>- PHB3 Debut: Skill Powers</p><p>- Ampersand (Martial Power 2 excerpt)</p><p></p><p>Dragon 378 (August)</p><p>- PHB3 Debut: Githzerai</p><p>- Playing Githzerai</p><p>- Ampersand (Plane Below excerpt)</p><p></p><p>Dragon 377 (July)</p><p>- PHB3 Debut: Psion</p><p>- Ampersand (Draconomicon 2 excerpt)</p><p></p><p>Dragon 376 (June)</p><p>- MM3 Playtest</p><p></p><p>Dragon 375 (May)</p><p>- PHB3 Playtest: Monk</p><p>- PHB3 Playtest: Hybrid Characters</p><p></p><p>Every single one of these previews/playtests is for a book that is at least 4 months away from release at the time of the preview. That would make these previews... months ahead of release, like I said. And with the exception of the MM3 playtest, they're pretty extensive previews/playtest (extensive being the word you assigned for whatever reason, since I never used it originally).</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/4arch/ex&page=2" target="_blank">Excerpt Archive</a></p><p></p><p>And here is the list of excerpts, all of which are 100% free, which begin releasing the month before a product hits shelves.</p><p></p><p>So, as I said, their Dragon-exclusive previews are longer articles with plenty of information (enough to let you play a class or a race) and are released months in advance of the book itself, and their free previews are one-page deals that give you a solid glimpse into the product's content shortly before its release.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You're claiming they said "THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE!" when they, in fact, did not. Hell, I don't even recall any promise that it would be a boxed set, merely that they were considering it and looking at the feasibility. But then again, this is the internet, where any off-hand comment of any kind becomes some kind of thrice-bound oath.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Really? Can you point me to their 8 excerpts for each product, please, because it sure isn't on their official website under C&C Previews, where they lack previews for a number of their products.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Emphasis mine.</p><p></p><p>This is exactly what I was talking about with the internet making any statement into promises. Scott Rouse said they were exploring options, one of which was possibly paying a small amount for a PDF copy ("price of a cup of coffee"). Options being explored, not policies promised and put into place. You took a comment that was "This is something we're looking at, and it may or may not work out" and turned it into "We are doing this. PERIOD. END OF STATEMENT."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Little Raven, post: 4925062, member: 10095"] Let's actually look at the content of Dragon, directly. Dragon 379 (September) - PHB3 Debut: Skill Powers - Ampersand (Martial Power 2 excerpt) Dragon 378 (August) - PHB3 Debut: Githzerai - Playing Githzerai - Ampersand (Plane Below excerpt) Dragon 377 (July) - PHB3 Debut: Psion - Ampersand (Draconomicon 2 excerpt) Dragon 376 (June) - MM3 Playtest Dragon 375 (May) - PHB3 Playtest: Monk - PHB3 Playtest: Hybrid Characters Every single one of these previews/playtests is for a book that is at least 4 months away from release at the time of the preview. That would make these previews... months ahead of release, like I said. And with the exception of the MM3 playtest, they're pretty extensive previews/playtest (extensive being the word you assigned for whatever reason, since I never used it originally). [url=http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/4arch/ex&page=2]Excerpt Archive[/url] And here is the list of excerpts, all of which are 100% free, which begin releasing the month before a product hits shelves. So, as I said, their Dragon-exclusive previews are longer articles with plenty of information (enough to let you play a class or a race) and are released months in advance of the book itself, and their free previews are one-page deals that give you a solid glimpse into the product's content shortly before its release. You're claiming they said "THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE!" when they, in fact, did not. Hell, I don't even recall any promise that it would be a boxed set, merely that they were considering it and looking at the feasibility. But then again, this is the internet, where any off-hand comment of any kind becomes some kind of thrice-bound oath. Really? Can you point me to their 8 excerpts for each product, please, because it sure isn't on their official website under C&C Previews, where they lack previews for a number of their products. Emphasis mine. This is exactly what I was talking about with the internet making any statement into promises. Scott Rouse said they were exploring options, one of which was possibly paying a small amount for a PDF copy ("price of a cup of coffee"). Options being explored, not policies promised and put into place. You took a comment that was "This is something we're looking at, and it may or may not work out" and turned it into "We are doing this. PERIOD. END OF STATEMENT." [/QUOTE]
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