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<blockquote data-quote="Imban" data-source="post: 4928267" data-attributes="member: 29206">This always gets my goat, because it's not like all of those classes weren't in the very first splatbooks for D&amp;D ever. Yes, the VERY FIRST RELEASE was very different, but by the time you got to AD&amp;D you had every class represented. Also multiclassing worked the same as of Greyhawk, etc. etc.Alignments are kind of weird, because even from the OD&amp;D corebooks it's impossible to argue LG, LE, NG, NE, CG, and CE didn't exist, it's just that the players were assumed to be playing good guys. See, for instance, how the spell list specifically calls out &quot;evil&quot; priests.So changes between (OD&amp;D + the print supplements) to AD&amp;D were rather minor. Changes between AD&amp;D 1e and AD&amp;D 2e, on the other hand......were all basically minor additions or subtractions, rather than a complete reworking of the game from basic principles. Oh, and the Illusionist had existed since OD&amp;D, too, when it was in the Strategic Review.Nope. Only 2e -&gt; 3e and 3e -&gt; 4e have been radical changes. With the notable exception of the Immortals rules for Basic D&amp;D, I will look at you like a lunatic if you tell me you're playing a pre-3e version by the book and it's radically different from any other pre-3e version by the book.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Imban, post: 4928267, member: 29206"] This always gets my goat, because it's not like [b]all of those classes[/b] weren't in the very first splatbooks for D&D ever. Yes, the VERY FIRST RELEASE was very different, but by the time you got to AD&D you had every class represented. Also multiclassing worked the same as of Greyhawk, etc. etc. Alignments are kind of weird, because even from the OD&D corebooks it's impossible to argue LG, LE, NG, NE, CG, and CE didn't exist, it's just that the players were assumed to be playing good guys. See, for instance, how the spell list specifically calls out "evil" priests. So changes between (OD&D + the print supplements) to AD&D were rather minor. Changes between AD&D 1e and AD&D 2e, on the other hand... ...were all basically minor additions or subtractions, rather than a complete reworking of the game from basic principles. Oh, and the Illusionist had existed since OD&D, too, when it was in the Strategic Review. Nope. Only 2e -> 3e and 3e -> 4e have been radical changes. With the notable exception of the Immortals rules for Basic D&D, I will look at you like a lunatic if you tell me you're playing a pre-3e version by the book and it's radically different from any other pre-3e version by the book. [/QUOTE]

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