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<blockquote data-quote="Voadam" data-source="post: 4930360" data-attributes="member: 2209"><p>Free online rules such as was done with the OGL SRD would have helped so that people could examine the rules for free easily.</p><p></p><p>Releasing the free quickstart and shadowfell stuff was a move in the right direction, but a small step significantly after launch. Same for the MM online art gallery.</p><p></p><p>I know I haven't been motivated enough to spend $25 on a 4e PH (or a pdf of it when they were available for that price) to try out the new system. I haven't even had the interest yet to read fully through the quickstart rules at this point now that they are released. </p><p></p><p>I would have read the rules early on but I didn't want to spend $20 on Shadowfell or $75 on core books sight unseen. Listening to the dribs and drabs of teaser information hints did not interest me in following those obsessively to get a smattering of out of context rules that might be correct or might not for the final product.</p><p></p><p>The continued lessening of what they offered as time of release came closer also soured me on WotC 4e. </p><p></p><p>"PDFs for the price of a cup of coffee." -> </p><p>"Actually that won't work so we'll come out with pdfs late and sell them for $25 each." -> </p><p>"Actually our books are pirated online and we decided we won't sell you legal pdf copies of them at all. If you want legal pdfs sorry you are out of luck unless you scan your own." </p><p></p><p>"We like 3rd party support and open gaming will continue with 4e D&D, we invited top 3PP's to talk about 4e and how they can get early access to rules and have stuff ready at launch." -></p><p>"Actually we are going to make it different with a new license so there will be a little delay, but expect stuff soon from your favorite 3PPs." -></p><p>"Here's the long delayed GSL, be grateful that even this unattractive restricted license exists. A couple people will go with it and make a few products."</p><p></p><p>Pomising things then disapointing those expectations seems like a marketing failure to me that leads to ill feelings.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Voadam, post: 4930360, member: 2209"] Free online rules such as was done with the OGL SRD would have helped so that people could examine the rules for free easily. Releasing the free quickstart and shadowfell stuff was a move in the right direction, but a small step significantly after launch. Same for the MM online art gallery. I know I haven't been motivated enough to spend $25 on a 4e PH (or a pdf of it when they were available for that price) to try out the new system. I haven't even had the interest yet to read fully through the quickstart rules at this point now that they are released. I would have read the rules early on but I didn't want to spend $20 on Shadowfell or $75 on core books sight unseen. Listening to the dribs and drabs of teaser information hints did not interest me in following those obsessively to get a smattering of out of context rules that might be correct or might not for the final product. The continued lessening of what they offered as time of release came closer also soured me on WotC 4e. "PDFs for the price of a cup of coffee." -> "Actually that won't work so we'll come out with pdfs late and sell them for $25 each." -> "Actually our books are pirated online and we decided we won't sell you legal pdf copies of them at all. If you want legal pdfs sorry you are out of luck unless you scan your own." "We like 3rd party support and open gaming will continue with 4e D&D, we invited top 3PP's to talk about 4e and how they can get early access to rules and have stuff ready at launch." -> "Actually we are going to make it different with a new license so there will be a little delay, but expect stuff soon from your favorite 3PPs." -> "Here's the long delayed GSL, be grateful that even this unattractive restricted license exists. A couple people will go with it and make a few products." Pomising things then disapointing those expectations seems like a marketing failure to me that leads to ill feelings. [/QUOTE]
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