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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ariosto" data-source="post: 4931850" data-attributes="member: 80487">I agree that 3e in many ways botches the kind of balance that was in the old game. Someone at WotC (Monte Cook?) seemed to "like" spell-casters in a bad way. I suspect (not having tried it) that some of the problems reported at higher levels are really due more, though, to fundamental shifts in approach that would also play significant hob with AD&D or OD&D.Hussar's "AD&D core" must be something that did not exist in 1979. The MM, PHB and DMG together come to about 480 pages (half in the DMG). The original set plus supplements I-III come to about 300 (half sized) pages. The Advanced books include material from magazines (bards, rangers, illusionists, various monsters and magic items, expanded alignment, planes of existence, random generation tables, etc.) and even from Swords & Spells. They also include a lot more explanatory and descriptive text.The additional material (apart from some new spells) is mainly in the DMG, and mainly the sort of miscellany and advice of equal utility with Holmes or Moldvay, Mentzer or Cook & Marsh (Expert or 2nd Advanced). Want a table for Potion Miscibility, Reputed Magical Properties of Gems, Intoxication, Insanity, Parasitic Infestation, NPC Facts and Traits, Height and Weight, Aging, Machicolations & Merlons (and Siege Weapons to attack them), Mining, Torture Chamber Furnishings, or Herbs, Spices and Medicinal Vegetables, or ...? It's in there!NO, the switch from OD&D to AD&D was not (and is not) in my experience "radical"! It is not even necessarily a switch at all.The really radical change with 4e is in the basic concept of the game. There was a trend through 2e and 3e, but now the complaints the "old school" levied against those seem to me pretty thin gruel. A lot of the "broken" things 4e "fixes" are so only in the sense that, for instance, blue cheese tastes "inedible" to me (whereas it's supposed to be veined with mold and coated with bacteria).</blockquote>

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