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<blockquote data-quote="ProfessorCirno" data-source="post: 4659595" data-attributes="member: 65637">I don't think anyone is trying to be patronizing.&nbsp; I'm not claiming that it's impossible to have a good game with the subject of rape in it.&nbsp; I just personally haven't seen much of it that didn't wreck a game, and I don't understand the neccesity.Again, the wonderful thing about dying is that, once it happens, it's over.&nbsp; Nobody dies twice.&nbsp; Have you worked in a woman's shelter or with rape victims?&nbsp; Protip: It's not over once it's &quot;over.&quot;&nbsp; That's why people are squeemish about it, not because they're patronizing or because they're childish, and not because they want to have a moral high ground, or claim &quot;OH BUT IT'S JUST A GAME&quot; (I mean seriously have you seen my other posts?).&nbsp; It's because they feel there's a line that shouldn't be crossed for their entertainment.&nbsp; Some people do find comedy in rape.&nbsp; That doesn't mean everyone does.&nbsp; Personally, I find little to no comedy in &quot;LOL WOMEN&quot; jokes, but I see them constantly.&nbsp; It doesn't mean I need to suck it up and stop being childish about it, it means I know who won't be playing in my games, and who's games I won't be playing in.I dunno what else I can say; for some people, rape, quite frankly, is indeed more horrible then murdering things and taking their stuff, and it's past the line of what's acceptable in their games, especially if it's just shrugged off as no big deal.&nbsp; Yes, I think that using it as nothing more then a device to show how eeeeeeeeeevil a villain can be is shrugging it off as no big deal - you can do that just fine with many other things.&nbsp; If I had a character who wanted to rape someone in game, I'd have a rather serious talk with them as to why they would (&quot;BECAUSE I'M EVIL&quot; isn't an acceptable answer, nor is &quot;Because I want to challenge the norm!&quot;).&nbsp; If a rape would occur in game due to the story, I'd be severely put off if it was treated lightly.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ProfessorCirno, post: 4659595, member: 65637"] I don't think anyone is trying to be patronizing. I'm not claiming that it's impossible to have a good game with the subject of rape in it. I just personally haven't seen much of it that didn't wreck a game, and I don't understand the [I]neccesity[/I]. Again, the wonderful thing about dying is that, once it happens, [I]it's over. [/I]Nobody dies [I]twice[/I]. Have you worked in a woman's shelter or with rape victims? Protip: [I]It's not over once it's "over."[/I] That's why people are squeemish about it, not because they're patronizing or because they're childish, and not because they want to have a moral high ground, or claim "OH BUT IT'S JUST A GAME" (I mean seriously have you seen my other posts?). It's because they feel there's a line that shouldn't be crossed for their entertainment. Some people do find comedy in rape. That doesn't mean [I]everyone[/I] does. Personally, I find little to no comedy in "LOL WOMEN" jokes, but I see them constantly. It doesn't mean I need to suck it up and stop being childish about it, it means I know who won't be playing in my games, and who's games I won't be playing in. I dunno what else I can say; for some people, rape, quite frankly, is indeed more horrible then murdering things and taking their stuff, and it's past the line of what's acceptable in their games, especially if it's just shrugged off as no big deal. Yes, I think that using it as nothing more then a device to show how eeeeeeeeeevil a villain can be is shrugging it off as no big deal - you can do that just fine with many other things. If I had a character who wanted to rape someone in game, I'd have a rather serious talk with them as to [I]why[/I] they would ("BECAUSE I'M EVIL" isn't an acceptable answer, nor is "Because I want to challenge the norm!"). If a rape would occur in game due to the story, I'd be severely put off if it was treated lightly. [/QUOTE]

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