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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JackSmithIV" data-source="post: 4661904" data-attributes="member: 74901">I'll just come out and admit it: I have a problem with half-orcs. And it is entirely connected to the rape issue. I'm suprised that most people really have no problem imagining humans consensually having sex with orcs. I am very good at suspending disbelief, but a human wanting to have sex with an orc? Not for thousands of dollars would I have sex with an orc.I understand that yes, our cozy civilized culture has certain images we limited ourselves to in the spectrum of sexual desirability. But I grew up in a very diverse part of New Jersey. I don't have any close friends who are not black and also have not been in an interaccial dating situation. My girlfriend of 2 years in high school was Korean, and I've dated more than one black woman in my teenage years.<img src="http://fc81.deviantart.com/fs25/f/2008/150/7/c/4e_DnD_Orcs_by_RalphHorsley.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /> But THAT is where I draw the line in the sand. Sex with a dragonborn, even, sure. A big lizard, sure. I can actually imagine consensual sex with a gorilla before sex with a feral, wild, evil orc. I understand that not all orcs are evil, yes, but in core? In the Points of Light philosophy, most people are scared commoners and farmers who live on isolated farms. Their exposure to orcs is fairy tales that make you want to soil yourself at the sight of an orc. Even then, sure there are the occassional once-in-a-blue-moon consensual incedent. Maybe it's that I wasn't around for earlier editions. Maybe it's just me, really. Maybe it's just that I find no need for half-orcs as a core, playable race. I mean, orc is a monster race, isn't it? What vital niche do they fill? We don't have half-dwarves, which I find much more feasible. But for me, it's the one thing in all D&D core I'm just not comfortable with. Because the images above, when you add sex, puts rape in my head. Even in just the slightest. They're orcs! Sure, some societies accept orcs. Certain entire campaign settings do. But it's... just a little bit of a stretch for me. ORCS! I don't know where I was going with this. It's just so weird reading this thread. There aren't more people who feel this way? </blockquote>

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