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<blockquote data-quote="Snarf Zagyg" data-source="post: 8454950" data-attributes="member: 7023840"><p>Excerpt from <strong><em>The Original Sin- How I am Going To Create The Bard and Ruin D&D Forever</em></strong></p><p>(Doug Schwegman, The Strategic Review, Feb. 1976)</p><p></p><p>I believe it {THE BARD- Snarf} is a logical addition to the D&D scene and the one I have composed is a hodgepodge of at least three different kinds, <strong>the norse ‘skald’, the celtic ‘bard’, and the southern european ‘minstrel’</strong>. The skalds were often old warriors who were a kind of self appointed historian whose duty was to record the ancient battles, blood feuds, and deeds of exceptional prowess by setting them to verse much like the ancient Greek poets did. Tolkien, a great Nordic scholar, copied this style several times in the <em>Lord of the Rings</em> trilogy (for example Bilbo’s chant of Earendil the Mariner). The Celts, especially in Britain, had a much more organized structure in which the post of Bards as official historians fell somewhere between the Gwelfili or public recorders and the Druids who were the judges as well as spiritual leaders. In the Celtic system Bards were trained by the Druids for a period of almost twenty years before they assumed their duties, among which was to follow the heroes into battle to provide an accurate account of their deeds, as well as to act as trusted intermediaries to settle hostilities among opposing tribes. By far the most common conception of a Bard is as a minstrel who entertained to courts of princes and kings in France, Italy and parts of Germany in the latter middle ages. Such a character was not as trust worthy as the Celtic or Nordic Bards and could be compared to a combination Thief-Illusionist. These characters were called Jongleurs by the French, from which the corrupt term juggler and court jester are remembered today. </p><p></p><p>*************</p><p>Arguably, the biggest issue with the current Bard incarnation (other than its existence) is that it is a full caster. While magic has always been a small part of the Bard identify, it was a <em>small part</em> of the identity.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Snarf Zagyg, post: 8454950, member: 7023840"] Excerpt from [B][I]The Original Sin- How I am Going To Create The Bard and Ruin D&D Forever[/I][/B] (Doug Schwegman, The Strategic Review, Feb. 1976) I believe it {THE BARD- Snarf} is a logical addition to the D&D scene and the one I have composed is a hodgepodge of at least three different kinds, [B]the norse ‘skald’, the celtic ‘bard’, and the southern european ‘minstrel’[/B]. The skalds were often old warriors who were a kind of self appointed historian whose duty was to record the ancient battles, blood feuds, and deeds of exceptional prowess by setting them to verse much like the ancient Greek poets did. Tolkien, a great Nordic scholar, copied this style several times in the [I]Lord of the Rings[/I] trilogy (for example Bilbo’s chant of Earendil the Mariner). The Celts, especially in Britain, had a much more organized structure in which the post of Bards as official historians fell somewhere between the Gwelfili or public recorders and the Druids who were the judges as well as spiritual leaders. In the Celtic system Bards were trained by the Druids for a period of almost twenty years before they assumed their duties, among which was to follow the heroes into battle to provide an accurate account of their deeds, as well as to act as trusted intermediaries to settle hostilities among opposing tribes. By far the most common conception of a Bard is as a minstrel who entertained to courts of princes and kings in France, Italy and parts of Germany in the latter middle ages. Such a character was not as trust worthy as the Celtic or Nordic Bards and could be compared to a combination Thief-Illusionist. These characters were called Jongleurs by the French, from which the corrupt term juggler and court jester are remembered today. ************* Arguably, the biggest issue with the current Bard incarnation (other than its existence) is that it is a full caster. While magic has always been a small part of the Bard identify, it was a [I]small part[/I] of the identity. [/QUOTE]
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