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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8113733" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>Just going off of a potential myth, you could potentially have Bugbears be a type of Oni. </p><p></p><p>In japanese myth, Oni were the wardens of Hell, where evil spirits would be tortured and punished to cleanse their souls of evil before being reincarnated. Oni were massive figures, wielding large weapons (generally spiked clubs) and enjoyed lazing about and drinking when they got the chance (because otherwise it was work all the time, and they wanted a break)</p><p></p><p>Now, that doesn't really fit for a humanoid race, per se, but you could manipulate a bit of lore to make it work</p><p></p><p>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p></p><p></p><p>What I've started doing is to honestly take the Bugbear out of the goblinoid races, and make goblins and Hobgoblins much closer. I then made Bugbears the foot soldiers and enforcers of the Unseelie court. </p><p></p><p>One idea I've been toying around with is to steal from a setting where goblins are just young hobgoblins. So, as they grow older, they grow bigger, until they are hobs. In the setting they can keep growing beyond that, becoming similar in size to Ogres or Ettins. </p><p></p><p>Which, I really like, since I want to find a better way to work with ogres, and making them very intelligent and "old" hobgoblins creates a new, very terrifying enemy (or just a different place to put the archetypes of some of the Giants) </p><p></p><p></p><p>Orcs I just made a PC race, which really solves most of the issues, since I don't do goblin PCs (not that they aren't people, but they tend to be the antagonists in my settings, so they tend to not make good choices for PCs)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 8113733, member: 6801228"] Just going off of a potential myth, you could potentially have Bugbears be a type of Oni. In japanese myth, Oni were the wardens of Hell, where evil spirits would be tortured and punished to cleanse their souls of evil before being reincarnated. Oni were massive figures, wielding large weapons (generally spiked clubs) and enjoyed lazing about and drinking when they got the chance (because otherwise it was work all the time, and they wanted a break) Now, that doesn't really fit for a humanoid race, per se, but you could manipulate a bit of lore to make it work ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- What I've started doing is to honestly take the Bugbear out of the goblinoid races, and make goblins and Hobgoblins much closer. I then made Bugbears the foot soldiers and enforcers of the Unseelie court. One idea I've been toying around with is to steal from a setting where goblins are just young hobgoblins. So, as they grow older, they grow bigger, until they are hobs. In the setting they can keep growing beyond that, becoming similar in size to Ogres or Ettins. Which, I really like, since I want to find a better way to work with ogres, and making them very intelligent and "old" hobgoblins creates a new, very terrifying enemy (or just a different place to put the archetypes of some of the Giants) Orcs I just made a PC race, which really solves most of the issues, since I don't do goblin PCs (not that they aren't people, but they tend to be the antagonists in my settings, so they tend to not make good choices for PCs) [/QUOTE]
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