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<blockquote data-quote="random user" data-source="post: 1566694" data-attributes="member: 16581"><p>I think if you cast that spell you would find the platinum, but if a local cast the spell he would not find the platinum.</p><p></p><p>My friend had a good analogy from real life. I believe I can relate it without totally mangling it, but please correct me if I'm wrong.</p><p></p><p>In the United States, you are not allowed to export goods to Cuba as per some law I think it was the US Embargo Act, but I'm not sure. I'm just going to call it that for this discussion though.</p><p></p><p>In Canada, if you are a Canadian corporation, you are not allowed to obey the US Embargo Act.</p><p></p><p>That's fine, until you find a Canadian subsidiary of a US corporation. If someone in Cuba wants you to export something to them, then if you ship it, you are obeying Canadian law and breaking US law. If you don't ship it you break Canadian law and obey US law.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Getting back to DnD, I run my paladins like this: they have a personal code of honor (specific to each paladin and their diety). It may include things like: I will never steal. I will never lie. I will never allow an innocent to die. I will never use my weapon against an unarmed foe. etc etc. </p><p></p><p>It will be ordered in terms of importance. So in the above example if an unarmed foe is seconds away from killing an innocent, and I don't think I'm going to be able to stop him by just calling out for him to stop, I'm going to strike at that unarmed foe. Yes, it's going against one of my tenets, but it's to protect one of the tenets I feel is more important.</p><p></p><p>At the end of that list is always: I will obey the laws of the land I am in.</p><p></p><p>But again, my paladin may disobey one of the laws of the land, if it's to protect one of his more important tenets. I don't think that's being unlawful. My law is written down in my code of honor, and I do not stray from it, nor does the code change from region to region. The code provides a way to settle disputes when parts of the code conflict with each other. If I break any my tenets without cause (cause being to uphold an even more important tenet) then I expect to have to atone. If I break one of my tenets to uphold an even more important tenet, I expect my god to understand that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="random user, post: 1566694, member: 16581"] I think if you cast that spell you would find the platinum, but if a local cast the spell he would not find the platinum. My friend had a good analogy from real life. I believe I can relate it without totally mangling it, but please correct me if I'm wrong. In the United States, you are not allowed to export goods to Cuba as per some law I think it was the US Embargo Act, but I'm not sure. I'm just going to call it that for this discussion though. In Canada, if you are a Canadian corporation, you are not allowed to obey the US Embargo Act. That's fine, until you find a Canadian subsidiary of a US corporation. If someone in Cuba wants you to export something to them, then if you ship it, you are obeying Canadian law and breaking US law. If you don't ship it you break Canadian law and obey US law. Getting back to DnD, I run my paladins like this: they have a personal code of honor (specific to each paladin and their diety). It may include things like: I will never steal. I will never lie. I will never allow an innocent to die. I will never use my weapon against an unarmed foe. etc etc. It will be ordered in terms of importance. So in the above example if an unarmed foe is seconds away from killing an innocent, and I don't think I'm going to be able to stop him by just calling out for him to stop, I'm going to strike at that unarmed foe. Yes, it's going against one of my tenets, but it's to protect one of the tenets I feel is more important. At the end of that list is always: I will obey the laws of the land I am in. But again, my paladin may disobey one of the laws of the land, if it's to protect one of his more important tenets. I don't think that's being unlawful. My law is written down in my code of honor, and I do not stray from it, nor does the code change from region to region. The code provides a way to settle disputes when parts of the code conflict with each other. If I break any my tenets without cause (cause being to uphold an even more important tenet) then I expect to have to atone. If I break one of my tenets to uphold an even more important tenet, I expect my god to understand that. [/QUOTE]
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