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<blockquote data-quote="Grydan" data-source="post: 5702470" data-attributes="member: 79401"><p>H2 is the only one that I've seen from both sides of the DM screen, and about it I will say this: too many Duergar. </p><p></p><p>Their little fortress went on for so long that everyone got really tired of them. They're nasty and effective little monsters, but encounter after encounter with them got tedious.</p><p></p><p>The lesson I took from H1, H2, and H3 is that a venue better be pretty darn awesome before you make your players spend more than 3 to 5 encounters in it.</p><p></p><p>H2 was also (not counting a retconned TPK in Kobold Hall), the first place I ever caused PCs to die.</p><p></p><p>In the final confrontation with the Duergar leader, the party's elf ranger got knocked unconscious... by an attack that pushed him into the fireplace.</p><p></p><p>Then the halfling rogue jumped up on the table, only to be tenderized by an enlarged Duergar.</p><p></p><p>After having had all PCs survive Keep on the Shadowfell, losing two in one fight was rather dramatic.</p><p></p><p>The dying didn't stop there, either. Soon enough, the ranger's replacement (a barbarian) and the warlord both drowned in a pool of blood. By the end of the module, the rogue's replacement (a warden) had died as well. </p><p></p><p>The warlord's replacement (a rogue) went on to die in the <em>first</em> room of Pyramid of Shadows.</p><p></p><p><em>Oddly, it seems that half of my group is much more prone to death than the other half. Three players are using the characters they started with (two have been around since the campaign started, another joined around level 3). The other three players have each had at least two characters die... or get petrified. </em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Grydan, post: 5702470, member: 79401"] H2 is the only one that I've seen from both sides of the DM screen, and about it I will say this: too many Duergar. Their little fortress went on for so long that everyone got really tired of them. They're nasty and effective little monsters, but encounter after encounter with them got tedious. The lesson I took from H1, H2, and H3 is that a venue better be pretty darn awesome before you make your players spend more than 3 to 5 encounters in it. H2 was also (not counting a retconned TPK in Kobold Hall), the first place I ever caused PCs to die. In the final confrontation with the Duergar leader, the party's elf ranger got knocked unconscious... by an attack that pushed him into the fireplace. Then the halfling rogue jumped up on the table, only to be tenderized by an enlarged Duergar. After having had all PCs survive Keep on the Shadowfell, losing two in one fight was rather dramatic. The dying didn't stop there, either. Soon enough, the ranger's replacement (a barbarian) and the warlord both drowned in a pool of blood. By the end of the module, the rogue's replacement (a warden) had died as well. The warlord's replacement (a rogue) went on to die in the [I]first[/I] room of Pyramid of Shadows. [I]Oddly, it seems that half of my group is much more prone to death than the other half. Three players are using the characters they started with (two have been around since the campaign started, another joined around level 3). The other three players have each had at least two characters die... or get petrified. [/I] [/QUOTE]
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