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<blockquote data-quote="MadTinkerer" data-source="post: 327628" data-attributes="member: 1883"><p>There is indication in the Bible that while God hates all sin, some sins provoke him more than others. For example, child molesters make God a LOT more angry than those who have affairs with the neighbor's wife(the quote goes something like "If anyone causes one of these little ones to stumble, it is better that he had a millstone around his neck and that he was thrown into the sea."). That is what I meant by some sins being more evil than others, in addition to those who sin worse being less likely to repent. Generally, those who sin worse have a worse time in life (being hounded by "The Law" or disease or circumstance) and/or a worse time in the afterlife, though scripture is deliberately vague on exactly how it is worse for them in the afterlife.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's like this: if you worship a god or anything other than The God, it violates the first commandment. Consulting or communicating with demons as if they were equals or superiors breaks this commandment. According to the Bible (I'm not preaching, mind you, I'm just relating what it says), all gods that men worship are demons(if they have power) or simply lies. Deliberately worshiping Satan and/or casting spells in the knowledge that God is against such things is worse than worshipping "the spirits" in ignorance.</p><p></p><p>On the other hand, knowing "spells", researching philosophy and alchemy, reading about the constellations and what people believe about them is not necessarily harmful. According to the Bible, believing in them is. Talking to someone's grave to console yourself(understanding that the person cannot actually hear you) is not evil, but consulting with someone who claims to be able to communicate with the spirits of the dead is(The Biblical definition of a Necromancer is someone like John Edwards). It's like carnal knowledge: understanding about how the birds and the bees function is entirely different from fantasizing about naked members of the opposite sex all day. I'm just saying that knowing about evil is not evil in itself. That's what I meant when I wrote that sentence. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Exactly what they did, where they lived and who they were is vague, but it is certain that they were extremely educated people who were astronomers certainly and astrologers possibly. Astrology, when not used in the divination sense, is no more harmful than learning about mythology. Horoscopes, on the other hand, are considered to be lies at best and equivalent to idol worship if taken seriously.</p><p></p><p>[</p><p></p><p>Technically, the Bible says that Evil is contrary to God's nature. He is all powerful, but he cannot sin because it would be against his nature. </p><p></p><p>Think of it this way: physics has proven that although time travel is possible, "paradoxes" are impossible. A man cannot go back in time and kill his father before he is conceived because he just can't. In Back to the Future, the universe was at stake, but the truth is that the scenario just can't happen.</p><p></p><p>[</p><p></p><p>The reason I included Knowledge domain has more to do with the granted visions in the Bible and praying to God. The effects of the spells from the Knowledge domain seem to simulate a lot of miracles and visions.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, but there were also long stretches of time when there were no prophets or only one. When there were several prophets at a time, they tended to be less "powerful" in the sense of prominence: when there's only one guy slinging miracles and curses from the guy who created you, he tends to stick out more. Hence the "major" and the "minor" prophets.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MadTinkerer, post: 327628, member: 1883"] There is indication in the Bible that while God hates all sin, some sins provoke him more than others. For example, child molesters make God a LOT more angry than those who have affairs with the neighbor's wife(the quote goes something like "If anyone causes one of these little ones to stumble, it is better that he had a millstone around his neck and that he was thrown into the sea."). That is what I meant by some sins being more evil than others, in addition to those who sin worse being less likely to repent. Generally, those who sin worse have a worse time in life (being hounded by "The Law" or disease or circumstance) and/or a worse time in the afterlife, though scripture is deliberately vague on exactly how it is worse for them in the afterlife. It's like this: if you worship a god or anything other than The God, it violates the first commandment. Consulting or communicating with demons as if they were equals or superiors breaks this commandment. According to the Bible (I'm not preaching, mind you, I'm just relating what it says), all gods that men worship are demons(if they have power) or simply lies. Deliberately worshiping Satan and/or casting spells in the knowledge that God is against such things is worse than worshipping "the spirits" in ignorance. On the other hand, knowing "spells", researching philosophy and alchemy, reading about the constellations and what people believe about them is not necessarily harmful. According to the Bible, believing in them is. Talking to someone's grave to console yourself(understanding that the person cannot actually hear you) is not evil, but consulting with someone who claims to be able to communicate with the spirits of the dead is(The Biblical definition of a Necromancer is someone like John Edwards). It's like carnal knowledge: understanding about how the birds and the bees function is entirely different from fantasizing about naked members of the opposite sex all day. I'm just saying that knowing about evil is not evil in itself. That's what I meant when I wrote that sentence. Exactly what they did, where they lived and who they were is vague, but it is certain that they were extremely educated people who were astronomers certainly and astrologers possibly. Astrology, when not used in the divination sense, is no more harmful than learning about mythology. Horoscopes, on the other hand, are considered to be lies at best and equivalent to idol worship if taken seriously. [ Technically, the Bible says that Evil is contrary to God's nature. He is all powerful, but he cannot sin because it would be against his nature. Think of it this way: physics has proven that although time travel is possible, "paradoxes" are impossible. A man cannot go back in time and kill his father before he is conceived because he just can't. In Back to the Future, the universe was at stake, but the truth is that the scenario just can't happen. [ The reason I included Knowledge domain has more to do with the granted visions in the Bible and praying to God. The effects of the spells from the Knowledge domain seem to simulate a lot of miracles and visions. Yes, but there were also long stretches of time when there were no prophets or only one. When there were several prophets at a time, they tended to be less "powerful" in the sense of prominence: when there's only one guy slinging miracles and curses from the guy who created you, he tends to stick out more. Hence the "major" and the "minor" prophets. [/QUOTE]
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