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<blockquote data-quote="GroverCleaveland" data-source="post: 328344" data-attributes="member: 6935"><p><strong>Go, Mordecai!</strong></p><p></p><p>Satan appeared in Green Ronin's <em>Legions of Hell</em> under his Muslim name, Iblis. Some readers might not have recognized him, since he also got what was essentially the Muslim story of his Fall. Anyway, he's represented there as a fallen solar.</p><p></p><p>The person who criticized Tyler Do'Urden's summary of Gnostic tenets should be made aware that he didn't make them up. Gnosticism is a real, historical religion as worthy of respect as the Church of Jesus Christ and Latter Day Saints, or the Quakers, or anyone else. The reason there aren't many around today is because the religion (and a good proportion of its adherents) was brutally wiped out, at least twice. I think it would make an interesting basis for an RPG campaign (and actually forms part of the background for the <strong>Kult</strong> RPG). The <a href="http://www.wizards.com/dnd/article.asp?x=dnd/bs/bs20020824a" target="_blank">Keepin' the Faith</a> article on the WotC site actually mentions a Gnostic-type background for game religions, as well as other ideas, like having both monotheistic and polytheistic religions coexist.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, I believe that since the suggestions in this thread are explicitly in a game context, it would be perfectly okay if Tyler Do'Urden <em>had</em> made Gnosticism up. If someone chose to flame him because they were offended by an explicitly fictitious variation on Christianity, it would be the fault of the flamer, not the original poster. Let's let creativity run wild - how about a campaign where God is Satan's scorned lover, or one where God has somehow died and the angels are trying to keep it a secret. Not for everybody, for sure, but they're valid ideas for those who like them. Roleplaying, like other forms of fiction, are good places to explore the consequences of ideas we wouldn't normally have reason to ponder.</p><p></p><p>At any rate, <a href="http://www.mimgames.com/cof/" target="_blank">Children of Fire</a> is an interesting free RPG that might give people some good ideas for a JudeoChristian or Islamic-themed D&D game. You might also want to look at <strong>In Nomine</strong>.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GroverCleaveland, post: 328344, member: 6935"] [b]Go, Mordecai![/b] Satan appeared in Green Ronin's [I]Legions of Hell[/I] under his Muslim name, Iblis. Some readers might not have recognized him, since he also got what was essentially the Muslim story of his Fall. Anyway, he's represented there as a fallen solar. The person who criticized Tyler Do'Urden's summary of Gnostic tenets should be made aware that he didn't make them up. Gnosticism is a real, historical religion as worthy of respect as the Church of Jesus Christ and Latter Day Saints, or the Quakers, or anyone else. The reason there aren't many around today is because the religion (and a good proportion of its adherents) was brutally wiped out, at least twice. I think it would make an interesting basis for an RPG campaign (and actually forms part of the background for the [b]Kult[/b] RPG). The [URL=http://www.wizards.com/dnd/article.asp?x=dnd/bs/bs20020824a]Keepin' the Faith[/URL] article on the WotC site actually mentions a Gnostic-type background for game religions, as well as other ideas, like having both monotheistic and polytheistic religions coexist. Anyway, I believe that since the suggestions in this thread are explicitly in a game context, it would be perfectly okay if Tyler Do'Urden [i]had[/i] made Gnosticism up. If someone chose to flame him because they were offended by an explicitly fictitious variation on Christianity, it would be the fault of the flamer, not the original poster. Let's let creativity run wild - how about a campaign where God is Satan's scorned lover, or one where God has somehow died and the angels are trying to keep it a secret. Not for everybody, for sure, but they're valid ideas for those who like them. Roleplaying, like other forms of fiction, are good places to explore the consequences of ideas we wouldn't normally have reason to ponder. At any rate, [url=http://www.mimgames.com/cof/]Children of Fire[/url] is an interesting free RPG that might give people some good ideas for a JudeoChristian or Islamic-themed D&D game. You might also want to look at [b]In Nomine[/b]. [/QUOTE]
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