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<blockquote data-quote="Tyler Do'Urden" data-source="post: 329381" data-attributes="member: 4601"><p>To be honest, the disrespect was not intended, it was just construed that way. I am a presenter of ideas and possibilities.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Mormon=Latter Day Saints. And I'm sure I needn't remind you that there is at least one Mormon in the fantasy gaming industry (Tracy Hickman)... and he does post on internet boards and lists from time to time. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>As for comparing them to "heretics", I'm sure that Mormons and Quakers are also considered heretics by many other religious sects... yet again, this is relative.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't see what's so shocking about it... there's nothing shocking at all about it to me.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There are many possible interpretations of medieval Catholocism... medieval Catholic theology was just a map, not the territory, and we can't even say how good a map it was (I don't think it was a particularly useful one).</p><p></p><p>As for transcending societies "evil", there are many different approaches, and different interpretations of what society's "evil" is. I could offer my views and my approach if you like- it would probably be a bit different.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, I do enjoy creating controversy. But that truly wasn't my intent, and if I came off that way, then I'm sorry. I just wanted to propose a few ideas that I had been playing around with for my own campaign and suggest a few books that I thought someone creating an "alternate history" and looking for ideas for a D&D campaign would find interesting (the three I listed I've found to be utter gold mines).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Although the religions in question are never mentioned by name, there are many "game religions" that do a pretty good job of butchering the theology of many real-world religions. How true is "Deities and Demigods" to Asatru or Hermeticism? What about "Swashbuckling Adventures" when it comes to portraying religions based off of Catholcism, Lutheran Protestantism, or Russian Orthodoxy? Gonna consult "Oriental Adventures" or the Rokugan supplements for data on Taoism or Zen (I certainly hope not)?</p><p></p><p>Game designers do it all the time.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Eating ice cream has never made me fat, and with my metabolism and lifestyle, never will. Carbon Monoxide in the tiny doses that anyone in a major city breathes regularly isn't going to kill anyone.</p><p></p><p>Don't think that I don't take religion seriously- you would be very mistaken. But I don't think there is anything particularly sacred about mythical stories, dogmatic laws, extensive theological systems- to me it's all window dressing and navel gazing. To me, religion is about freedom, understanding, and living life to the fullest... not about who's story you believe or who your favorite imaginary friend is. But that's just me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tyler Do'Urden, post: 329381, member: 4601"] To be honest, the disrespect was not intended, it was just construed that way. I am a presenter of ideas and possibilities. Mormon=Latter Day Saints. And I'm sure I needn't remind you that there is at least one Mormon in the fantasy gaming industry (Tracy Hickman)... and he does post on internet boards and lists from time to time. :) As for comparing them to "heretics", I'm sure that Mormons and Quakers are also considered heretics by many other religious sects... yet again, this is relative. I don't see what's so shocking about it... there's nothing shocking at all about it to me. There are many possible interpretations of medieval Catholocism... medieval Catholic theology was just a map, not the territory, and we can't even say how good a map it was (I don't think it was a particularly useful one). As for transcending societies "evil", there are many different approaches, and different interpretations of what society's "evil" is. I could offer my views and my approach if you like- it would probably be a bit different. Yes, I do enjoy creating controversy. But that truly wasn't my intent, and if I came off that way, then I'm sorry. I just wanted to propose a few ideas that I had been playing around with for my own campaign and suggest a few books that I thought someone creating an "alternate history" and looking for ideas for a D&D campaign would find interesting (the three I listed I've found to be utter gold mines). Although the religions in question are never mentioned by name, there are many "game religions" that do a pretty good job of butchering the theology of many real-world religions. How true is "Deities and Demigods" to Asatru or Hermeticism? What about "Swashbuckling Adventures" when it comes to portraying religions based off of Catholcism, Lutheran Protestantism, or Russian Orthodoxy? Gonna consult "Oriental Adventures" or the Rokugan supplements for data on Taoism or Zen (I certainly hope not)? Game designers do it all the time. Eating ice cream has never made me fat, and with my metabolism and lifestyle, never will. Carbon Monoxide in the tiny doses that anyone in a major city breathes regularly isn't going to kill anyone. Don't think that I don't take religion seriously- you would be very mistaken. But I don't think there is anything particularly sacred about mythical stories, dogmatic laws, extensive theological systems- to me it's all window dressing and navel gazing. To me, religion is about freedom, understanding, and living life to the fullest... not about who's story you believe or who your favorite imaginary friend is. But that's just me. [/QUOTE]
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