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<blockquote data-quote="Dogface" data-source="post: 331421" data-attributes="member: 6970">Re: Domains, Spells, etcEverything that is in the modern Roman Catholic Bible would have been in the Bible of the Crusaders.&nbsp; The closure of the Canon &quot;officially&quot; happened at the Council of Trent (1500s--right on the ball), but that closure was nothing more than a statement that all the books that had been in it for the last 1,000 years were still in it.&nbsp; (In the East, it has never been &quot;officially&quot; closed, but more than 1500 years of continuity pretty much has sealed it.)Martin Luther actually ended up taking out nothing (although he wanted to delete the Epistle of James--he called it &quot;an Epistle of straw&quot;)&nbsp; It was his successors that got to cutting away at things in a big way.&nbsp; The books they cut were all from the Old Testament, in any case.By the Crusade era, Judaism had been monotheist for at least 2,000 years, and after the Nazarites (Christians) showed up, they got even more radically monotheist.Unless one wishes to use a &quot;big tent&quot; view of Islam.&nbsp; It was mostly the West that came to the conclusion that Islam was a religion started by Satan (or Dispater).&nbsp; In the East, at least some theologians were of the opinion that it was some sort of Jewish or Christian heresy.&nbsp; Thus, there is some sort of historical precedent for Christians seeing Muslims as being &quot;like us but misguided&quot; instead of &quot;Satan-loving scum&quot;.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dogface, post: 331421, member: 6970"] [b]Re: Domains, Spells, etc[/b] [B] Everything that is in the modern Roman Catholic Bible would have been in the Bible of the Crusaders. The closure of the Canon "officially" happened at the Council of Trent (1500s--right on the ball), but that closure was nothing more than a statement that all the books that had been in it for the last 1,000 years were still in it. (In the East, it has never been "officially" closed, but more than 1500 years of continuity pretty much has sealed it.) Martin Luther actually ended up taking out nothing (although he wanted to delete the Epistle of James--he called it "an Epistle of straw") It was his successors that got to cutting away at things in a big way. The books they cut were all from the Old Testament, in any case. By the Crusade era, Judaism had been monotheist for at least 2,000 years, and after the Nazarites (Christians) showed up, they got even more radically monotheist. Unless one wishes to use a "big tent" view of Islam. It was mostly the West that came to the conclusion that Islam was a religion started by Satan (or Dispater). In the East, at least some theologians were of the opinion that it was some sort of Jewish or Christian heresy. Thus, there is some sort of historical precedent for Christians seeing Muslims as being "like us but misguided" instead of "Satan-loving scum".[/b] [/QUOTE]

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