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On whether sorcerers and wizards should be merged or not, (they shouldn't)
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<blockquote data-quote="houser2112" data-source="post: 7914850" data-attributes="member: 664"><p>TLDR: I think the sorcerer sucks in 5E, so if you're looking for experiences more recent than 3.0, ignore this post. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Sorcerer was my very first character when 3.0 came out in 2000. I didn't care that the implementation sucked in comparison to the wizard (like bonus feats), I was just happy they finally included an option for those of us who hate Vancian casting. I was excited I didn't have to memorize spells anymore, to not be stuck with <em>sleep</em> when I really needed <em>magic missile</em>. It bothered me that I had to invest in Charisma instead of Intelligence since I'm a roll-player that tends to tune out during the talky parts of play, but it was easy to get away with underplaying my character's scores in a 12-person group that contained people who would equally overplay theirs.</p><p></p><p>That party had a Conjurer who played more as an Evoker because with that many players, managing summons was annoying and combat already took forever. I enjoyed being able to sling the <em>lightning bolts</em> and <em>fireballs</em> and not feel pressure to have <em>identify</em> and <em>knock</em> memorized.</p><p></p><p>I liked the dichotomy of the wizard's broad, but shallow pool, and the sorcerer's narrow, but deep pool. Then comes 5E and they not only gave the sorcerer's raison d'être (spontaneous casting) to all casters, but they took away his volume of power too. The wizard can prepare more spells than the sorcerer can know, and they have the same number of slots.</p><p></p><p>I don't think the sorcerer has a reason for being its own class anymore, mechanically speaking. When I had an opportunity to create a spellcaster recently, I thought about giving sorcerer a try, but couldn't justify why I wouldn't make an evoker instead. I don't need to make a sorcerer to be a spontaneous caster, and making a wizard for the versatility no longer means sacrificing volume.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="houser2112, post: 7914850, member: 664"] TLDR: I think the sorcerer sucks in 5E, so if you're looking for experiences more recent than 3.0, ignore this post. :) Sorcerer was my very first character when 3.0 came out in 2000. I didn't care that the implementation sucked in comparison to the wizard (like bonus feats), I was just happy they finally included an option for those of us who hate Vancian casting. I was excited I didn't have to memorize spells anymore, to not be stuck with [I]sleep[/I] when I really needed [I]magic missile[/I]. It bothered me that I had to invest in Charisma instead of Intelligence since I'm a roll-player that tends to tune out during the talky parts of play, but it was easy to get away with underplaying my character's scores in a 12-person group that contained people who would equally overplay theirs. That party had a Conjurer who played more as an Evoker because with that many players, managing summons was annoying and combat already took forever. I enjoyed being able to sling the [I]lightning bolts[/I] and [I]fireballs[/I] and not feel pressure to have [I]identify[/I] and [I]knock[/I] memorized. I liked the dichotomy of the wizard's broad, but shallow pool, and the sorcerer's narrow, but deep pool. Then comes 5E and they not only gave the sorcerer's raison d'être (spontaneous casting) to all casters, but they took away his volume of power too. The wizard can prepare more spells than the sorcerer can know, and they have the same number of slots. I don't think the sorcerer has a reason for being its own class anymore, mechanically speaking. When I had an opportunity to create a spellcaster recently, I thought about giving sorcerer a try, but couldn't justify why I wouldn't make an evoker instead. I don't need to make a sorcerer to be a spontaneous caster, and making a wizard for the versatility no longer means sacrificing volume. [/QUOTE]
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