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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 7915248" data-attributes="member: 93670">it's funny how quickly you abandon the limited number of &quot;right spells&quot; on the list that must be taken argument when forced to see that those spells are on both lists &amp; very few of the spells not mirrored are anything top shelf.&nbsp; It's very unusual to see a sorcerer or a wizard cast every single spell they could cast you are still arguing that the sorcerer's niche is incomplete because it doesn't have everything a wizard has.&nbsp; You aren't arguing that sorcerers don't have the right kind of spells to compliment their raw magic conjuration ability, your're just complaining that sorcerer's don't copy enough of wizard to be a full wizard instead of something unique on their own.You start turning that into &quot;a balanced game construct.&quot;&nbsp; By taking sorcerer out of the wizard box &amp; build a box of sorcerer specific stuff.&nbsp; You can't have 90%+ of wizard plus a few extra things plus social skills plus an awesome ability that is thematic &amp; flavorful like that.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 7915248, member: 93670"] it's funny how quickly you abandon the limited number of "right spells" on the list that must be taken argument when forced to see that those spells are on both lists & very few of the spells not mirrored are anything top shelf. It's very unusual to see a sorcerer or a wizard cast every single spell they [I]could [/I]cast you are still arguing that the sorcerer's niche is incomplete because it doesn't have everything a wizard has. You aren't arguing that sorcerers don't have the right kind of spells to compliment their raw magic conjuration ability, your're just complaining that sorcerer's don't copy enough of wizard to be a full wizard instead of something unique on their own. You start turning that into "a balanced game construct." By taking sorcerer out of the wizard box & build a box of sorcerer specific stuff. You can't have 90%+ of wizard plus a few extra things plus social skills plus an awesome ability that is thematic & flavorful like that. [/QUOTE]

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