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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 7915470" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>I would like to point out that X-men became one of the most popular comic titles at Marvel. </p><p></p><p>I would like to also point out that The Hulk (gains powers through accident and contact with powerful forces), Spider-Man (gains powers through an accident and genetic alterations), Wonder Woman and Superman (born with it), The Flash (powers through accidental contact with powers beyond his control), The Fantastic Four (repeat the previous), ect ect ect all fit within the Sorcerer mold. </p><p></p><p>With Great Power comes Great Responsibility was a throw away line according to Stan Lee, but it has become a cornerstone of superhero mythos and it only works with characters like Sorcerers or accidental warlocks. Because the idea that you had greatness thrust upon you, without your consent or explicit desire, is a fundamental story idea. </p><p></p><p>You can go on forever, Luke Skywalker didn't look for power and prestige, he was forced into it. The sorcerer didn't seek power, but they have it anyways. That is compelling. You see "silver spoons" in "well, I just have power, didn't need to work for it like the plebes" but that's just a tiny sliver of the potential of the stories you can build. Elsa never sought her power, and for many many years she sees it as a curse. Something that divided her from her family and made her a danger to her sister. </p><p></p><p>Now, the mechanics don't support this. Mechanically, sorcerers are in control, but the mechanics also don't really support learning magic at all, so it is fairly easy to see that 1st level sorcerers have gained control, and before that point they were much more dangerous to those around them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 7915470, member: 6801228"] I would like to point out that X-men became one of the most popular comic titles at Marvel. I would like to also point out that The Hulk (gains powers through accident and contact with powerful forces), Spider-Man (gains powers through an accident and genetic alterations), Wonder Woman and Superman (born with it), The Flash (powers through accidental contact with powers beyond his control), The Fantastic Four (repeat the previous), ect ect ect all fit within the Sorcerer mold. With Great Power comes Great Responsibility was a throw away line according to Stan Lee, but it has become a cornerstone of superhero mythos and it only works with characters like Sorcerers or accidental warlocks. Because the idea that you had greatness thrust upon you, without your consent or explicit desire, is a fundamental story idea. You can go on forever, Luke Skywalker didn't look for power and prestige, he was forced into it. The sorcerer didn't seek power, but they have it anyways. That is compelling. You see "silver spoons" in "well, I just have power, didn't need to work for it like the plebes" but that's just a tiny sliver of the potential of the stories you can build. Elsa never sought her power, and for many many years she sees it as a curse. Something that divided her from her family and made her a danger to her sister. Now, the mechanics don't support this. Mechanically, sorcerers are in control, but the mechanics also don't really support learning magic at all, so it is fairly easy to see that 1st level sorcerers have gained control, and before that point they were much more dangerous to those around them. [/QUOTE]
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