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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Undrave" data-source="post: 7916948" data-attributes="member: 7015698">Hahaha, I don't know about that...Well, a way to do it would be to excise culture from race? Borrowing from PF2 a little, character creation would thus be like this:Step 1: Pick a race, you gain biological attributes and a +2 to three statsStep 2: Pick a culture in broad stroke like "Militaristic", "Atavist", "Mercantile", "Theocratic" etc, giving you +2 to a stat, +1 to another and then some skills in the Social/Explo pillarStep 3: Pick a background. You get another +2 and +1 and then some more skills and tools proficiencyStep 4: Pick a narrow class, giving you again +2 and +1In the end, if you pick all the options that give a bonus to the same two stats after the Race bonus you end up with 18, 15, 12 10 10 10 if you go hyper specialized. (Note that I would probably remake the ability scores if I were making a brand new system)How's that?You seem pretty hung up on how 3e used to do things. You should try not to focus so much on exact mechanics.</blockquote>