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<blockquote data-quote="Dungeoneer" data-source="post: 5429145" data-attributes="member: 91777">Another person with no inside expertise shoving their oar in, but...I believe that all the stuff we hear about Paizo selling as well as D&amp;D is bunk.&nbsp; I have no problem believing that in some FLGSes in some regions Paizo sells as well as or better than D&amp;D.&nbsp; Fine.But FLGSes are a shrinking part of the D&amp;D pie.&nbsp; At this point they're probably more of an outreach program than a serious chunk of the sales market.&nbsp; D&amp;D has serious shelf space at all the big brick-and-mortar book stores.&nbsp; That and on Amazon.com is where they are likely making the bulk of their money.&nbsp; People deeply invested in the hobbyist community have distorted view of the market.&nbsp; D&amp;D may or may not sell well to people like them, people who drive out to the FLGS a couple times a month for a game and pick up the new releases and talk shop with the folks in the store.&nbsp; But they're a niche within a niche.&nbsp; Casual gamers buy at Barnes &amp; Noble, because there is one near their house, or they buy online because it's cheaper.&nbsp; And when they're buying books at the bookstore or on Amazon, WotC product is way more visible to them than Paizo.&nbsp; That's to say nothing of things like boxed sets on the shelves at Target.&nbsp; I guess I could be proven wrong, but I'm deeply skeptical of the idea that WotC doesn't still represent the 1000 lbs gorilla of the tabletop industry.&nbsp; Especially when it's based on the anecdotal reports from hobby shop owners.&nbsp; I don't have any information that anyone else doesn't have, but I just think there are plenty of reasons to be skeptical when it comes to these reports of Pathfinder outselling D&amp;D.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dungeoneer, post: 5429145, member: 91777"] Another person with no inside expertise shoving their oar in, but... I believe that all the stuff we hear about Paizo selling as well as D&D is bunk. I have no problem believing that in some FLGSes in some regions Paizo sells as well as or better than D&D. Fine. But FLGSes are a shrinking part of the D&D pie. At this point they're probably more of an outreach program than a serious chunk of the sales market. D&D has serious shelf space at all the big brick-and-mortar book stores. That and on Amazon.com is where they are likely making the bulk of their money. People deeply invested in the hobbyist community have distorted view of the market. D&D may or may not sell well [I]to people like them[/I], people who drive out to the FLGS a couple times a month for a game and pick up the new releases and talk shop with the folks in the store. But they're a niche within a niche. Casual gamers buy at Barnes & Noble, because there is one near their house, or they buy online because it's cheaper. And when they're buying books at the bookstore or on Amazon, WotC product is way more visible to them than Paizo. That's to say nothing of things like boxed sets on the shelves at Target. I guess I could be proven wrong, but I'm deeply skeptical of the idea that WotC doesn't still represent the 1000 lbs gorilla of the tabletop industry. Especially when it's based on the anecdotal reports from hobby shop owners. I don't have any information that anyone else doesn't have, but I just think there are plenty of reasons to be skeptical when it comes to these reports of Pathfinder outselling D&D. [/QUOTE]

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