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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Primal" data-source="post: 5429491" data-attributes="member: 30678">Here are links to ICV2 Quarterly Top 5 ranks: <a href="http://www.icv2.com/articles/news/18504.html" target="_blank">ICv2 - Top 5 RPGs--Q3 2010</a><a href="http://www.icv2.com/articles/news/17571.html" target="_blank">ICv2 - Top Five RPGs--Q1 2010</a><a href="http://www.icv2.com/articles/news/18045.html" target="_blank">ICv2 - Top 5 RPGs--Q2 2010</a><a href="http://www.icv2.com/articles/news/17087.html" target="_blank">ICv2 - Top Q4 2009 Roleplaying Games</a>ICV2 collects this data from hobby stores; as you can see, the latest  report shows that Pathfinder and 4E are 'tied'. Naturally, ICV2 does not  gather any data from internet sales. WoTC does not have an online  store, but Amazon and Paizo are probably the biggest stores that sell  their products; and while it's anecdotal, I have been observing Amazon's  RPG sales for a few years now (at least a few times per week). My  impression is that even if Pathfinder isn't selling as much as 4E, it's a  close call. Finally, I think Paizo's CEO Lisa Stevens posted on these  boards that, based on the data she has at her disposal, the latest ICV2  report is pretty accurate (I'm too lazy to dig up the post, but perhaps  someone else could do that for me <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />)However, although I love Pathfinder, I still don't want Paizo -- or any  other publisher -- to gain the rights to D&D. I truly wish WoTC will  get its act together; at the moment they seem to be in panic, and I  have a feeling Hasbro has given WoTC some sort of ultimatum (it's very  likely that Hasbro is not happy with their current profits). I mean, why  else would there be board games, cancellation of the miniatures line,  collectible Fortune Cards, previews of products that are for some reason  pulled on the eleventh hour, etc. As someone else recently said on  these boards, they seem to be throwing all sorts of stuff around to see  what sticks. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown    :("  data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /></blockquote>

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