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<blockquote data-quote="jdrakeh" data-source="post: 3913104" data-attributes="member: 13892">It has to do with personality.C&amp;C has had some very obnoxious fans post here about how the game can do anything out of the box (i.e., unaltered), which makes it obviously superior to D&amp;D -- and then they proceed to tell people that you only need to houserule or handwave a sizeable list of stuff to make it do X (thus, shooting hundreds of holes in the original claim). At this point, somebody will point out that houserules and handwaving aren't something that the game does out of the box and that these are things which the consumer must do themselves. That is, these aren't actual rules in C&amp;C. This is typically followed by much gnashing of teeth and name-calling. Things only tend to go downhill from there. Would you want to sit down and game with such a person? I know that I wouldn't. Again, it's a personality thing. Telling lies and calling people names won't win you friends. A lot of people have that figured out. Those who don't will find convincing people to play their favorite game an arduous task. [P.S. This behavior is not specific to hardcore C&amp;C fans and I do not mean to infer such. I merely use them as an example here, as it's on point. Every game has its fair share of fanatic promoters who suffer from tunnel vision and, more often than not, such folks tend to repel rather than attract.][P.P.S. I hope ENWorld never becomes like DF (in that I hope its community is never so highly polarized to the degree that members actually spend time creating new perjoratives to describe other game systems). I'd welcome more dedicated discussion forums for multiple editions of D&amp;D, on the other hand.]</blockquote>

[QUOTE="jdrakeh, post: 3913104, member: 13892"] It has to do with personality. C&C has had some very obnoxious fans post here about how the game can do [i]anything[/i] out of the box (i.e., unaltered), which makes it obviously superior to D&D -- and then they proceed to tell people that you only need to houserule or handwave a sizeable list of stuff to make it do X (thus, shooting hundreds of holes in the original claim). At this point, somebody will point out that houserules and handwaving aren't something that the game does out of the box and that these are things which the consumer must do themselves. That is, these aren't actual [i]rules[/i] in C&C. This is typically followed by much gnashing of teeth and name-calling. Things only tend to go downhill from there. Would you want to sit down and game with such a person? I know that I wouldn't. Again, it's a personality thing. Telling lies and calling people names won't win you friends. A lot of people have that figured out. Those who don't will find convincing people to play their favorite game an arduous task. [P.S. This behavior is not specific to hardcore C&C fans and I do not mean to infer such. I merely use them as an example here, as it's on point. Every game has its fair share of fanatic promoters who suffer from tunnel vision and, more often than not, such folks tend to repel rather than attract.] [P.P.S. I hope ENWorld [i]never[/i] becomes like DF (in that I hope its community is never so highly polarized to the degree that members actually spend time creating new perjoratives to describe other game systems). I'd welcome more dedicated discussion forums for multiple editions of D&D, on the other hand.] [/QUOTE]

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