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<blockquote data-quote="Jim Hague" data-source="post: 3927648" data-attributes="member: 17550">Unfortunately, with several groups, it's too much of a toolkit - it's not crunchy enough to emulate D&amp;D, and it's too rules-heavy to qualify as a light system.&nbsp; The flexibility all too often becomes just handwaving.&nbsp;&nbsp; I'm not crying out for One True Wayism by calling others' products 'pathetic' either, I'd point out.&nbsp; It's great that your group likes C&amp;C; mine found it to be insufficient.Given nearly a year's worth of playing and attempting to use it both out of the box and with suggestions right off the TLG boards, I think I've got plenty of experience with the system.&nbsp; I'm well-aware of its strengths and limitations.&nbsp; I'm sorry that you take offense to that, but it's hardly surprising, given your own history.Did I ever say 3.x did games best for me?&nbsp; Nope, not a once.&nbsp; Did I claim my group is 'more expert' than others?&nbsp; Nope.&nbsp; Try applying your own advice at home.See, I never said these things.&nbsp; I called no one a liar.&nbsp; Simply put, you're making things up.I'd rightly point out that I'm not the one going to message boards, deliberately starting flamewars and running off into the night crowing about it.&nbsp;&nbsp; As for my posting here - until you're elected mod, I'll simply give your suggestions the weight they're worth.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jim Hague, post: 3927648, member: 17550"] Unfortunately, with several groups, it's too much of a toolkit - it's not crunchy enough to emulate D&D, and it's too rules-heavy to qualify as a light system. The flexibility all too often becomes just handwaving. I'm not crying out for One True Wayism by calling others' products 'pathetic' either, I'd point out. It's great that your group likes C&C; mine found it to be insufficient. Given nearly a year's worth of playing and attempting to use it both out of the box and with suggestions right off the TLG boards, I think I've got plenty of experience with the system. I'm well-aware of its strengths and limitations. I'm sorry that you take offense to that, but it's hardly surprising, given your own history. Did I ever say 3.x did games best for me? Nope, not a once. Did I claim my group is 'more expert' than others? Nope. Try applying your own advice at home. See, I never said these things. I called no one a liar. Simply put, you're making things up. I'd rightly point out that I'm not the one going to message boards, deliberately starting flamewars and running off into the night crowing about it. As for my posting here - until you're elected mod, I'll simply give your suggestions the weight they're worth. [/QUOTE]

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