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One 5-foot step per round, what about the Hasted partial action
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<blockquote data-quote="Beerf" data-source="post: 504240" data-attributes="member: 8190"><p><strong>Yes you can.</strong></p><p></p><p>Read the spell definition of “Haste”, and the glossary definitions of “Partial Action” and “5-Foot Step”.</p><p></p><p>Haste:</p><p>The transmuted creature moves and acts more quickly than normal. This extra speed has several effects. On his turn, the subject may take an extra partial action, either before or after his regular action. He gains a +4 haste bonus to AC. He loses this bonus whenever he would lose a dodge bonus. He can jump one and a half times as far as normal. This increase counts as an enhancement bonus.</p><p></p><p>5-Foot Step:</p><p>A small position adjustment that does not count as a move in combat. Usually (but not always), a 5-Foot Step is permitted in conjunction with a full-round action and may be taken at any point in the round. Most Partial actions also permit a 5-Foot Step. This movement does not provoke an attack of opportunity.</p><p></p><p>Partial Action:</p><p>An abbreviated action. Characters do not choose to take partial actions, but they are sometimes mandated by situations, such as a character’s condition or previous decision. Generally, a character can accomplish either portion of a standard action (that is, moving full speed or attacking) during a partial action, but not both. (The partial charge is the sole exception to this.) A 5-Foot Step is usually permitted in conjunction with a partial action.</p><p></p><p>Answer:</p><p>Yes you can take two steps, one with a full-round action, and one with your partial action.</p><p></p><p>1. By definition, “a 5-Foot Step is permitted in conjunction with a full-round action and may be taken at any point in the round. Most Partial actions also permit a 5-Foot Step.” This tells me that I can take one with my full round action, and it also tells me I can take one with my Partial action.</p><p>2. By definition, Haste gives you “an extra partial action”. And by definition Partial Action, “A 5-Foot Step is usually permitted”. (The “usually” does not mean accept when hasted it means. It means read Table 8-3: Partial Actions to find out when you can and cannot.)</p><p>3. By definition, a 5-Foot Step “does not count as a move in combat”, therefore you have not moved when you take you make you second small position adjustment. I turn provoking no Attack of Opportunity.</p><p>4.By definition, a 5-Foot Step "may be taken at any point in the round". This say you can make both 5-Foot Step at any point. So you could make two 5' adjustments, then take a full-round action, the take a partial action.</p><p></p><p>In my opinion the definition of Haste states “The transmuted creature moves and acts more quickly than normal.” If I move and act more quickly, I should be able to make two small position adjustments.</p><p>Also nobody has pointed out were in any book does it say that you cannot.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Beerf, post: 504240, member: 8190"] [b]Yes you can.[/b] Read the spell definition of “Haste”, and the glossary definitions of “Partial Action” and “5-Foot Step”. Haste: The transmuted creature moves and acts more quickly than normal. This extra speed has several effects. On his turn, the subject may take an extra partial action, either before or after his regular action. He gains a +4 haste bonus to AC. He loses this bonus whenever he would lose a dodge bonus. He can jump one and a half times as far as normal. This increase counts as an enhancement bonus. 5-Foot Step: A small position adjustment that does not count as a move in combat. Usually (but not always), a 5-Foot Step is permitted in conjunction with a full-round action and may be taken at any point in the round. Most Partial actions also permit a 5-Foot Step. This movement does not provoke an attack of opportunity. Partial Action: An abbreviated action. Characters do not choose to take partial actions, but they are sometimes mandated by situations, such as a character’s condition or previous decision. Generally, a character can accomplish either portion of a standard action (that is, moving full speed or attacking) during a partial action, but not both. (The partial charge is the sole exception to this.) A 5-Foot Step is usually permitted in conjunction with a partial action. Answer: Yes you can take two steps, one with a full-round action, and one with your partial action. 1. By definition, “a 5-Foot Step is permitted in conjunction with a full-round action and may be taken at any point in the round. Most Partial actions also permit a 5-Foot Step.” This tells me that I can take one with my full round action, and it also tells me I can take one with my Partial action. 2. By definition, Haste gives you “an extra partial action”. And by definition Partial Action, “A 5-Foot Step is usually permitted”. (The “usually” does not mean accept when hasted it means. It means read Table 8-3: Partial Actions to find out when you can and cannot.) 3. By definition, a 5-Foot Step “does not count as a move in combat”, therefore you have not moved when you take you make you second small position adjustment. I turn provoking no Attack of Opportunity. 4.By definition, a 5-Foot Step "may be taken at any point in the round". This say you can make both 5-Foot Step at any point. So you could make two 5' adjustments, then take a full-round action, the take a partial action. In my opinion the definition of Haste states “The transmuted creature moves and acts more quickly than normal.” If I move and act more quickly, I should be able to make two small position adjustments. Also nobody has pointed out were in any book does it say that you cannot. [/QUOTE]
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