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<blockquote data-quote="nightprowler4321" data-source="post: 2457248" data-attributes="member: 23869"><p><strong>One column or two</strong></p><p></p><p>First let me clear the air,someone said something about the pdf bible. Its no secret that when you sign up, paying your 40 bucks to rpgnow they send you three pdfs and a bunch of other stuff like anime srd, I think a superhero srd guideline, then the pdf creator "the bible" it is supposded to be called and I can't think of the other two right now. It is/supposed to give you guidelines to making a pdf. I'm not knocking it, as some of the stuff is very good. The 40 bucks covers bandwidth so its not just your 40 buck to what alot we already know. The bottom line is for 40 bucks you should be able to get on their site, despite their quality assurance program in some way, but lessons learned. Enough said.</p><p></p><p>I think as much as I and about 50 playtesters, which is small, hate the two column, I geuss you can only go so far against tradition, before tradition locks you out (Shakes head and mumbles the 1st amendment is not what it used to be). The landscaping while a good idea would prob frustrate actual online players, especially DM's going from side to side, but I think we will release a two column to said company to bring us into the fold. Keep the one column optional for those who want it and experiment on the landscape.</p><p></p><p>Thanks for the help everyone, I find it amazing taht people I don't even know, will prob never meet even at gen con can give me good advice, and yet from our workbench site, when I posed this question to over 35 members I got one response. Only half of them are contracted with us, its almost like if they speak up, their afraid I will reprimand them and to tell the truth, thier contracts give them alot more power to act upon such things as this. </p><p></p><p>Now I having a hard time convincing the reviewer that we did switch up thumbnails. We went from the glossy black and white <a href="http://groups.msn.com/BlackDaggerGameDesigns/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=23" target="_blank">http://groups.msn.com/BlackDaggerGameDesigns/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=23</a> to this one to this one <a href="http://groups.msn.com/BlackDaggerGameDesigns/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=24" target="_blank">http://groups.msn.com/BlackDaggerGameDesigns/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=24</a> (the links should take it out of thumbnail to about 1/3 of its original size). The reviewer says they are both one and the same to him. </p><p> I agree that maybe the title needs beefed up alittle. My question is how can I convince him nicely that they are different. We will not be putting a race or monster or adding anything to the pic. It may not be fantasy, but it is a high quality art, and I have seen much much worse there. Doing so would make people think it is a class book, monster book or race book even if we clearly defined it as something else, because the public perception would take it as that. For the second, it is a sourcebook of the wilds.</p><p> Perhaps this should be under another category, we have done the nice letter, thank you yada yada quite a few times before the frustrations. I just want to know what approaches have worked best for you in convincing the reviewer you had made changes to your thumbnail/product.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="nightprowler4321, post: 2457248, member: 23869"] [b]One column or two[/b] First let me clear the air,someone said something about the pdf bible. Its no secret that when you sign up, paying your 40 bucks to rpgnow they send you three pdfs and a bunch of other stuff like anime srd, I think a superhero srd guideline, then the pdf creator "the bible" it is supposded to be called and I can't think of the other two right now. It is/supposed to give you guidelines to making a pdf. I'm not knocking it, as some of the stuff is very good. The 40 bucks covers bandwidth so its not just your 40 buck to what alot we already know. The bottom line is for 40 bucks you should be able to get on their site, despite their quality assurance program in some way, but lessons learned. Enough said. I think as much as I and about 50 playtesters, which is small, hate the two column, I geuss you can only go so far against tradition, before tradition locks you out (Shakes head and mumbles the 1st amendment is not what it used to be). The landscaping while a good idea would prob frustrate actual online players, especially DM's going from side to side, but I think we will release a two column to said company to bring us into the fold. Keep the one column optional for those who want it and experiment on the landscape. Thanks for the help everyone, I find it amazing taht people I don't even know, will prob never meet even at gen con can give me good advice, and yet from our workbench site, when I posed this question to over 35 members I got one response. Only half of them are contracted with us, its almost like if they speak up, their afraid I will reprimand them and to tell the truth, thier contracts give them alot more power to act upon such things as this. Now I having a hard time convincing the reviewer that we did switch up thumbnails. We went from the glossy black and white [url]http://groups.msn.com/BlackDaggerGameDesigns/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=23[/url] to this one to this one [url]http://groups.msn.com/BlackDaggerGameDesigns/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=24[/url] (the links should take it out of thumbnail to about 1/3 of its original size). The reviewer says they are both one and the same to him. I agree that maybe the title needs beefed up alittle. My question is how can I convince him nicely that they are different. We will not be putting a race or monster or adding anything to the pic. It may not be fantasy, but it is a high quality art, and I have seen much much worse there. Doing so would make people think it is a class book, monster book or race book even if we clearly defined it as something else, because the public perception would take it as that. For the second, it is a sourcebook of the wilds. Perhaps this should be under another category, we have done the nice letter, thank you yada yada quite a few times before the frustrations. I just want to know what approaches have worked best for you in convincing the reviewer you had made changes to your thumbnail/product. [/QUOTE]
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