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<blockquote data-quote="Amrûnril" data-source="post: 8882443" data-attributes="member: 6841183"><p>Non-standard ability-skill pairings can work against PCs just as easily as it can work for them. If identifying a rare disease requires an Intelligence (Medicine) check, the Cleric may suddenly find themself feeling a lot less confident. I also find that getting into the habit of thinking of abilities and proficiences separately makes it easier to incorporate tool proficiencies into ability checks (since tools don't have default ability scores in the way skills do).</p><p></p><p>If players are doing mental gymnastics to get the DM to call the specific checks they want, that's not really a variant ability scores issue. It can happen just as easily with players wanting to roll Acrobatics instead of Athletics or Deception instead of Persuasion. Either way, the solution will require evaluating things on a case-by-case basis and emphasizing that different approaches may have different DCs or yield different results. </p><p></p><p>Regarding Intimidation specifically, I do think Charisma makes sense as the most commonly used ability score. Even when threatening violence, your willingess to follow through on that threat may be more in question than your physical ability to do so.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Amrûnril, post: 8882443, member: 6841183"] Non-standard ability-skill pairings can work against PCs just as easily as it can work for them. If identifying a rare disease requires an Intelligence (Medicine) check, the Cleric may suddenly find themself feeling a lot less confident. I also find that getting into the habit of thinking of abilities and proficiences separately makes it easier to incorporate tool proficiencies into ability checks (since tools don't have default ability scores in the way skills do). If players are doing mental gymnastics to get the DM to call the specific checks they want, that's not really a variant ability scores issue. It can happen just as easily with players wanting to roll Acrobatics instead of Athletics or Deception instead of Persuasion. Either way, the solution will require evaluating things on a case-by-case basis and emphasizing that different approaches may have different DCs or yield different results. Regarding Intimidation specifically, I do think Charisma makes sense as the most commonly used ability score. Even when threatening violence, your willingess to follow through on that threat may be more in question than your physical ability to do so. [/QUOTE]
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