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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 8848572" data-attributes="member: 87792"><p>If it isn't then the setting designers haven't started at the right place. Of course you can always improve a setting - but the best way of doing this is by re-writing it using a new edition as an excuse to redevelop it rather than by forcing a metaplot on it and making it worse for everyone trying to use it to play in.</p><p></p><p>So anyone not playing a homebrew game is having badwrongfun? And the books literally published to provide a setting should not be used for their stated purpose?</p><p></p><p>And GMs who want to use a setting <em>for its stated purpose</em> have a much harder time doing so if there is metaplot because then they have to do a whole lot more curation, undermining much of the point of using an established setting.</p><p></p><p>So all material should be tailored to you <em>when you explicitly do not use settings for their stated purpose</em>. And because you refuse to use settings for their stated purpose people who do use it the way it was intended should have their experience harmed?</p><p></p><p>Being blunt <em>so is 5e Ravenloft.</em> And metaplot does far more harm to the settings it's inflicted on than 5e Ravenloft has to classic Ravenloft.</p><p></p><p>The big difference is that 5e Ravenloft is a reimagining. Metaplots, by their evolving nature while claiming to be the same setting literally tell DMs and players that the way they are picturing the setting is wrong. </p><p></p><p>I don't know why 5e Ravenloft, which has an ignorable existence, is a problem for you. But if you have a problem with it surely by analogy you can see why others have issues with the far more intrusive nature of metaplot?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 8848572, member: 87792"] If it isn't then the setting designers haven't started at the right place. Of course you can always improve a setting - but the best way of doing this is by re-writing it using a new edition as an excuse to redevelop it rather than by forcing a metaplot on it and making it worse for everyone trying to use it to play in. So anyone not playing a homebrew game is having badwrongfun? And the books literally published to provide a setting should not be used for their stated purpose? And GMs who want to use a setting [I]for its stated purpose[/I] have a much harder time doing so if there is metaplot because then they have to do a whole lot more curation, undermining much of the point of using an established setting. So all material should be tailored to you [I]when you explicitly do not use settings for their stated purpose[/I]. And because you refuse to use settings for their stated purpose people who do use it the way it was intended should have their experience harmed? Being blunt [I]so is 5e Ravenloft.[/I] And metaplot does far more harm to the settings it's inflicted on than 5e Ravenloft has to classic Ravenloft. The big difference is that 5e Ravenloft is a reimagining. Metaplots, by their evolving nature while claiming to be the same setting literally tell DMs and players that the way they are picturing the setting is wrong. I don't know why 5e Ravenloft, which has an ignorable existence, is a problem for you. But if you have a problem with it surely by analogy you can see why others have issues with the far more intrusive nature of metaplot? [/QUOTE]
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