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<blockquote data-quote="Baumi" data-source="post: 8742961" data-attributes="member: 2569">I love the new Grappling Rules. It's simpler (just an attack), less easy to min-max to the wazzo, it has more effect (disadvantage to attack anyone besides the grappler) and it also ends easier (automatic Save). Especially the last part was always so frustrating. Players in my Campaigns never used Grappling, except when they specialised in it .. then they went so high that Monsters had nearly no change of escaping. Then they knocked the Monsters down and grappled. This eliminated the Monster, because it gives disadvantage to attacks and all other gain advantage and while it can try to escape this would cost their whole round with litle chance (and they would just get grappled again next round). So forget bringing cool single monsters. For the Players it was equally frustrating because no one likes to not be able to do something and they might even fail for multiple rounds.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Baumi, post: 8742961, member: 2569"] I love the new Grappling Rules. It's simpler (just an attack), less easy to min-max to the wazzo, it has more effect (disadvantage to attack anyone besides the grappler) and it also ends easier (automatic Save). Especially the last part was always so frustrating. Players in my Campaigns never used Grappling, except when they specialised in it .. then they went so high that Monsters had nearly no change of escaping. Then they knocked the Monsters down and grappled. This eliminated the Monster, because it gives disadvantage to attacks and all other gain advantage and while it can try to escape this would cost their whole round with litle chance (and they would just get grappled again next round). So forget bringing cool single monsters. For the Players it was equally frustrating because no one likes to not be able to do something and they might even fail for multiple rounds. [/QUOTE]

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