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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 9092757" data-attributes="member: 7006">People will keep trying to deny it on the hope against hope that they can convince enough other people to agree with them that things should change, and thus actually move the needle far enough for a change to happen.But what those players oftentimes refuse to accept is that every player who wants change wants a different change... which means there will almost never be enough of a needle move for any one thing to advance 5E past the &quot;evergreen&quot; state that WotC has been saying all along they wanted the game to be.Look at Short Rests-- large groups of players are saying they don't like the 1-Hour Short Rest... but none of them can agree on how they should be changed.&nbsp; 5-minutes, 10-minutes, 8-hours, removed completely... maybe you could get to 70% acceptance if you added everybody up on just changing the Short Rest from 1-hour... but we'll never see any one solution reach 70%.&nbsp; Which means it will just default back to 5E14.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 9092757, member: 7006"] People will keep trying to deny it on the hope against hope that they can convince enough other people to agree with them that things should change, and thus actually move the needle far enough for a change to happen. But what those players oftentimes refuse to accept is that every player who wants change wants a [I]different[/I] change... which means there will almost never be enough of a needle move for any [I]one[/I] thing to advance 5E past the "evergreen" state that WotC has been saying all along they wanted the game to be. Look at Short Rests-- large groups of players are saying they don't like the 1-Hour Short Rest... but none of them can agree on how they should be changed. 5-minutes, 10-minutes, 8-hours, removed completely... maybe you could get to 70% acceptance if you added everybody up on just changing the Short Rest from 1-hour... but we'll never see any [I]one[/I] solution reach 70%. Which means it will just default back to 5E14. [/QUOTE]

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