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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mirrorrorrim" data-source="post: 9118070" data-attributes="member: 7040132">So what you are talking about isn't a D&D thing. It is an "Any TTRPG where the GM has more narrative control, or the narrative is a constant negotiation" thing. There are so many indie TTRPGs that are about the shared storytelling experience, rather than mechanical power-use experience. Do you dislike all those TTRPGs too?I am so sorry if someone only has antagonistic GMs who shoot them down all the time. But that is a GM problem. Those same GMs will cause issues whether a spell or ability check is used. As the DM I am the guide/narrator that is working with the players to help weave their ideas and fantasies into a cohesive story with challenges and ultimate triumphs. I am not their opponent, rather more like an Improv Coordinator. And yes, I have played under DMs who are mechanically antagonistic. If they don't care about their players' feedback, or if I'm the odd person out for that table's playstyle, I thank them for the opportunity, wish them the best, and move on.</blockquote>