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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 9118758" data-attributes="member: 7006">The irony in all of this is that WotC GAVE a martial class feature that "just works" to the Ranger in their ability to never get lost in the wilderness-- an ability that for all intents and purposes might as well be magic (although its not)-- and yet people constantly COMPLAINED about that ability because it took away the chance of something happening for the Ranger narratively that they might have gotten if it instead worked on skill checks.  People hated that it just worked with no downside because it took away story and the Ranger doing what the Ranger does.  And now we have people saying they want other classes to get more of these too because spellcasters get them?Now, I of course presume these two groups do not in any possible form or fashion overlap-- there's absolutely zero chance that the players who were mad at Natural Explorer are the same people saying they want more martial features that work with the consistency of spells-- but this is probably a good reason why WotC doesn't actually make martial features that always work like spells do... because they've had nine years of people complaining to them about it when they did.</blockquote>