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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jack99" data-source="post: 4645783" data-attributes="member: 53135">I house-ruled minions long ago as well. My minions do damage as they would have had they been a normal monster of said level. This does make them significantly more of a threat at times, especially at range (We had a minions do more than 90 damage to the players before it died in one combat). Last time we played, my players ported out of the Trollhaunt and landed smack in the middle of a troll/fey goblin/treant attack on an eladrin town. There was fey goblins everywhere, and they just came rushing at the players, with the odd troll accompanying them at times. 40 fey goblins (level 10 minions) later, there was finally an opening so that the players could find a safer place. We all had a blast and they were very happy with the battle. This is the third time I have used a lot of minions to create a fun encounter, and each time the players have been nothing but positive about it. So I would have to disagree with the OP. Killing stuff in one hit can be satisfying, at least in 4e.</blockquote>