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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 6898272" data-attributes="member: 15700">Because I already qualified that I am looking for a tighter level range, so that is part of the baseline criteria.  I'm assuming you read my posts in this thread where I have said that several times.  Saying that I don't care about page count but care about fun does not suddenly nullify all the other posts I made where I said I want a tighter level range.  You seem to keep thinking things are mutually exclusive when they are not.It's like me saying, "I want a car, not a truck." and later saying "I don't care what the gas mileage is, I just want to have a fun driving experience." and you saying "then what does it matter if you have a car or truck?"What does any of this have to do with your incorrect claim that page count is correlated to level range of an adventure?your fun =/= everyone's fun.  I don't play to level up.  It's just a side benefit that means other parts of the game are opened up.  I play the game to have fun with friends.  always have.  Leveling is not a requirement of that.  I've gone entire months of gaming without a single level gain and didn't lose any fun, and it certainly wasn't the reason we played.I cut and pasted the list and told you where it came from.  Any reasonable person would consider that providing the proof.  It was obvious I pasted it (the formatting) and didn't make it up and type is all myself.  When presented with the proof and you still argue against it?  Then it is on you at that point to support your side.If you agree with me when I said that his claim of "this has been going on for 15 years" is not true, then why did you feel the need to argue against me?Prove it.  Because I don't think this is correct.  What did you just say?  If you make a claim, the onus is on your to prove it?  For one, if you look at the 3.75 published hard copy adventures per year with 3e, it seems on the surface that that is still more page count of adventures than now.  Secondly, I'd posit that a huge part of page count now is not actual adventure material, but campaign setting material that is there just to flesh out the particular setting location, and not actually part of the adventure itself.  And therefore, if you consider campaign setting material part of an adventure, then that means even more page count in previous editions is added to the comparison.fallacy.  Just because a business does not do something, doesn't mean that that thing is not profitable.  Nor is it true that if something is profitable, then a business will do it.Again, assumptions.  So I ask you to prove where their position is that the reason they don't do tighter level range adventures is because there is not enough money.</blockquote>

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